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Old 09-03-2010, 08:35 AM   #691
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Also note, moving forward: clicking "No" in the helpful system will not have any impact on the rep system. You'll need to manually and explicitly down rep a member if you intend to do so. This is more in line with the direction we'd like to see the system being used in. Thanks again for the continued feedback.

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Old 09-03-2010, 08:36 AM   #692
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Hi,

First: The parts of my comments you quoted in your post #673 were in reply to damgar's remarks and an attempt by me to re-assure him and tell him how I feel/felt about being part of LQ. (for those interested: my answer to damgar, post #656)

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I'm interested to hear in what way us implementing this system would/could impact you deciding to participate here at LQ.
At this particular moment I'm content with the way things are at LQ and I'm participating "as usual". I am however keeping a close eye on how things are developing.

I did have a little scare yesterday (see post #616), but changes that were made after that (see, among others, posts #618, #622, #623 and #626) and the way LQ looked when I checked this morning did put my mind at ease for the moment.

I did learn to live with some other things that were implemented in the last couple years and, even though I have strong feelings about the reputation system, I will probably learn to live with this as well (assuming that the direction it is going doesn't make a sudden turn somewhere).

I cannot give you any specifics about where my line will be crossed, but I'm sure I'll mention it when that starts to happen.
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Thanks again for the continued feedback.
You're welcome

Thank you for taking everybody's opinion into consideration!!
 
Old 09-03-2010, 08:39 AM   #693
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Thinking more about the integration with the "Helpful" system: as it stands now, a helpful "Yes" will up rep at 50%. I'm thinking it may make more sense to have a "Yes" click simply increment rep by a standard number (probably 1) across the board. Thoughts on this?

--jeremy
 
Old 09-03-2010, 08:41 AM   #694
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Hi,

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Originally Posted by anishakaul View Post
You can't understand what I am saying because I am not a native English speaker. I find it difficult to convey myself properly,

so now by down voting my post, did you understand what I was saying there ????????????

I would have explained if you would have asked me to do so !!!

This helpful post feature is getting me down now, just because some people DO NOT SIMPLY KNOW WHEN AND HOW TO USE IT !!!!
I must agree with jeremy on this situation. If you are going to participate in this system you either have to thicken your skin or opt out. This system will allow anyone to form their own opinion or discern how the situation is presented then weighed/decided from their understanding or bias.

As for 'thickening the skin', don't be too sensitive on one persons position. You can use it to build the understanding or hopefully that someone will openly respond to the indifference or lack of understanding on their part.

anisha, I've read a lot of your posts or queries. You seem to understand responses when someone provides interpretation of their meaning. That's one of things I have to work on all the time. Communication! I've worked with International students for years and still find myself explaining or define my meaning(s). I'm not talking down here but sometimes the author/presenter must break things down to simpler terms to convey their meaning to a non-native speaker. This can be a difficult task for both the speaker & listener. That darn language barrier.

Solved when we can mind-link each other's thoughts directly. You'll get scrambled thought when you link to mine.

HTH!
 
Old 09-03-2010, 08:59 AM   #695
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Another post to explain what you meant, increasing the time taken to understand the post doesn't seem like a good use of my limited time.

Maybe I was overly harsh in repping it down but next time I just won't bother.

The fact I can translate every word into english, and still it doesn't appear to make sense is what causes me the issue. And what does w.r.t stand for?
 
Old 09-03-2010, 09:05 AM   #696
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Forgive me if I've missunderstood but wont the Rep: link give you want you need in this instance? I've just checked on Jeremys post, and it also shows the previous reputation added by others.
Hi,

Didn't think about testing that one, but nope, has the same effect.If you repped that person before without 'spreading' rep you cannot see other reps and comments.

Kind regards,

Eric
 
Old 09-03-2010, 09:07 AM   #697
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I repped your post down. As I can't understand what your saying. I've read your reply three or four times and still can't figure out what point your trying to make.
Hello,

With all due respect, this is what I call abusing the system. Why down rep someone's post because YOU don't understand? Isn't it better to just ask for clarification as any educated person would do?

Kind regards,

Eric
 
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Old 09-03-2010, 09:08 AM   #698
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Quote:
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You can't understand what I am saying because I am not a native English speaker. I find it difficult to convey myself properly,

so now by down voting my post, did you understand what I was saying there ????????????

I would have explained if you would have asked me to do so !!!

This helpful post feature is getting me down now, just because some people DO NOT SIMPLY KNOW WHEN AND HOW TO USE IT !!!!
I rest my case.
 
Old 09-03-2010, 09:20 AM   #699
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...The fact I can translate every word into english, and still it doesn't appear to make sense is what causes me the issue. And what does w.r.t stand for?
It's probably due to your knowing only one language. It's a fairly common phenomenon when you go abroad and meet people who never spoke anything but their native language while you try to use their idiom. Notice for yourself: You tried to "translate" anishakauls english(!) into yours.

And what could the most probable explanation for w.r.t be? With regards / respect to? Is it really so difficult to assign probabilities? Look at the context?
 
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Old 09-03-2010, 09:32 AM   #700
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BTW, what does "You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to $memberName again." mean? Again? I've never thanked this $memberName.
 
Old 09-03-2010, 09:45 AM   #701
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Once you use the rep system on a member, you cannot use it on that same member again until you've used the system on $n other members. To know if what you're seeing is a bug or expected behavior, I'd need you to send me the username in question offline.

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Old 09-03-2010, 09:57 AM   #702
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Once you use the rep system on a member, you cannot use it on that same member again until you've used the system on $n other members. To know if what you're seeing is a bug or expected behavior, I'd need you to send me the username in question offline.

--jeremy
Hi Jeremy,

If you're referring to my post, I sent you a PM.

Kind regards,

Eric
 
Old 09-03-2010, 10:06 AM   #703
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EricTRA, I've responded to your PM. To clarify, my comment was in reply to unSpawn.

--jeremy
 
Old 09-03-2010, 10:07 AM   #704
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EricTRA, I've responded to your PM. To clarify, my comment was in reply to unSpawn.

--jeremy
Received and understood, thank you Jeremy.

Kind regards,

Eric
 
Old 09-03-2010, 10:19 AM   #705
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I've changed the helpful system "Yes" integration from a 50% ratio to a standard +1 rep across the board. This change, along with the previous changes in how rep alteration power is calculated (and maxed) should result in a significantly more egalitarian system that will hopefully not only encourage participation but make the rep system more enjoyable across the board.

--jeremy
 
  


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