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Old 05-19-2020, 04:33 AM   #1
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Question Longtime, semi-active member: some feedback...


Hey all. One thing this site is good at is reminding me when it's my Birthday. I keep coming back, even if I haven't logged in in years. I have some thoughts about the site, that might be worth looking into...
  • The Wiki seems inactive. Should we have folks on Reddit or whatnot come help populate it with data?
  • Markdown is dominant pretty much everywhere now. Should we update the editor to support it?
  • Profiles no longer need AIM or Yahoo fields. ICQ seems mostly a mail.ru thing now.
  • The site is making use of Cloudflare for HTTPS and IPv6 support, so that's cool at least.
  • It looks like the "Job Board" & "Book Reviews" can be removed at this point.
  • "Linux Tutorials" is dated from 2007: probably needs to be audited & updated.
  • Self-service profile deletion: there seems to be an inordinate amount of requests to delete profiles.


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Old 05-19-2020, 05:46 AM   #2
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The Wiki seems inactive. Should we have folks on Reddit or whatnot come help populate it with data?
"Linux Tutorials" is dated from 2007: probably needs to be audited & updated.
agreed^
 
Old 05-19-2020, 08:21 PM   #3
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Given the growth of Linux resources on the inner tubes, I think these unquietwiki and //////////// raise an issue worth considering.

The forum and the member blogs are the two features I use with any regularity. I have used the "Download Linux" page from time to time.
 
Old 05-19-2020, 09:22 PM   #4
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  • The Wiki seems inactive. Should we have folks on Reddit or whatnot come help populate it with data?
The wiki could use a clear set of goals but I'm not sure if bringing the hoardes from Reddit, 4chan, or any other such sites would be a healthy direction. There are a lot of technology wikis out there, so it would be important to answer why this one should stand out and then maybe try promoting it once more here on the Forums.
 
Old 05-19-2020, 10:32 PM   #5
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but I'm not sure if bringing the hoardes from Reddit, 4chan, or any other such sites would be a healthy direction.
I'm quite sure it would not.
 
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Old 05-20-2020, 08:53 AM   #6
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Thanks for the feedback. A couple comments, but would be great to keep the conversation going.

* For the wiki to survive, we'd need at least a few people who were interested in being admins/mods to help with spam, curation, moderation, and the many other things that go into a successful wiki. Without that foundation, I don't think it's useful to randomly attempt to get participation.

* The forum has a pending code update that will bring many new features that have been requested. Markdown and a much better search are among them.

* The tutorials and book section do indeed need a review.

--jeremy
 
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Old 05-20-2020, 09:21 AM   #7
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The Wiki seems to lack HTTPS. I know that is not technically important but does affect how the browsers and, especially, the search engines treat it.
 
Old 05-20-2020, 01:20 PM   #8
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Regarding HTTPS, that could easily be fixed with a Let's Encrypt cronjob or using Caddy as a front-end.

Regarding getting others to help out, https://www.reddit.com/r/linux is a decent community.
 
Old 05-20-2020, 11:49 PM   #9
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Reddit is owned by Advance Publications which is now the parent of Condé Nast which was its previous owner. Both have been and continue to be extremely negative towards any aspect of software freedom. Both censor the related subreddits very, very heavily against software freedom, including banning. So anything or anyone left there is not going to be an asset for writing about GNU/Linux. That would bring in a horrible, inappropriate and limiting perspective. Though I would agree that it would be better than bringing Gab or one of the *chans in if that false choice were presented.

I also have questions about whether Reddit has been lately misrepresenting Aaron Swartz's participation since his death. It does seem quite dishonest for them to do so. He worked at some sucky place with that name for a short while and then just stopped showing up.

Anyway, rather than poisoning the Wiki with that kind of influence what can the LQ community itself do with the Wiki? What should it do with the Wiki? Specifically, what makes this Wiki unique and worth adding to for the LQ community? What barriers (in addition to adding HTTPS to placate the browsers) need to removed for it to become worth adding to?
 
Old 05-21-2020, 01:49 AM   #10
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Thanks for responding to my feedback! I look forward to pending changes and would be willing to help with any new ones. I won't ask the Reddit folks to "ruin the place"; though I should point out there are still enough "MS can die in a fire, twice" folks bouncing around there to your mutual liking?
 
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* The tutorials and book section do indeed need a review.

--jeremy
i am willing to redo my howto when it is time for that.

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* The forum has a pending code update that will bring many new features that have been requested. Markdown and a much better search are among them.
sounds good man
 
  


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