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henderson 07-12-2020 05:01 AM

Is it _still_ possible to create account with Tor Browser?
 
I created this account with Tor Browser.
I tried to make another one but Google says automated queries.
I tried many times, many weeks, many identities.
Is it possible? I want to stay anonymous.

wpeckham 07-12-2020 07:48 AM

Tor is for browsing without leaving identity.

Points: #1 if you are creating accounts you are leaving traces, which somewhat violates the whole point of Tor. Creating additional accounts provides trackers with additional evidence, and may corrupt your very purpose in using Tor!

In many areas of security, as in some other disciplines, less is more. The smaller collection of bits you can leave out there the less likely you are to be traced and identified. Tor can help, but use it sparingly and leave as little footprint as possible or you can be tracked and traced despite using Tor.

#2 Tor is not designed for you to violate terms of service. Such use gives authorities a valid excuse for attacking Tor, Tor developers, Tor users, and the Tor network. They have enough invalid ones, we do not need to provide them ammunition.

dugan 07-13-2020 05:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by henderson (Post 6144494)
I tried to make another one but Google says automated queries.

Sorry, I'm confused here. Did Google stop you or did LQ stop you?

henderson 07-16-2020 03:38 AM

LQ's TOS say one may not use it anonymously? Haven't seen that.

And why was I able to register in the first place.

Quote:

Originally Posted by dugan (Post 6145042)
Sorry, I'm confused here. Did Google stop you or did LQ stop you?

LQ pops up a Google captcha without which I cannot complete the registration.
I have tried completing the captcha many times, over the past weeks, and it always ends in "Sorry your device is sending automated queries".

sevendogsbsd 07-16-2020 09:42 AM

The Google replies are normal - I use Tor for Google dorks (google hacking) and get the same messages. Tor will only protect your anonymity in transit and will hide your origin, sort of. This is not at all foolproof. Registering using Tor is pointless because whether or not you use your real or fake name and information has nothing to do with the transport mechanism.

TB0ne 07-16-2020 09:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by henderson (Post 6146000)
LQ's TOS say one may not use it anonymously? Haven't seen that. And why was I able to register in the first place.

LQ pops up a Google captcha without which I cannot complete the registration. I have tried completing the captcha many times, over the past weeks, and it always ends in "Sorry your device is sending automated queries".

Better question would be why you need to create multiple accounts on LQ in the first place. And if you've honestly been trying for 'many weeks, many identities', that raises more questions.

You have one account here that obviously works. Why do you need multiples? What are you trying to accomplish?

dugan 07-16-2020 11:13 AM

Just in case you're interested:

Quote:

Originally Posted by jeremy (Post 6116125)
We don't store IPs for logins (we do however for posts).

--jeremy


henderson 07-17-2020 04:25 AM

All this does not answer my question!
Can I create a LQ account over the TOR network or not? If not, why not?

I don't wnat to talk about if anonymity is useful or not!
It makes sense to me!
And if everything I need for a new account never leaves the TOR network then yes it is anonimuos!

wpeckham 07-17-2020 05:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by henderson (Post 6146381)
All this does not answer my question!
Can I create a LQ account over the TOR network or not? If not, why not?

I don't wnat to talk about if anonymity is useful or not!
It makes sense to me!
And if everything I need for a new account never leaves the TOR network then yes it is anonimuos!

And if everything you need for an account never leaves the TOR network, then you cannot create an account. That information MUST be delivered TO the remote host, which is NOT on the TOR network, for it to create the account. At that point you are no longer anonymous.

pan64 07-17-2020 05:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by henderson (Post 6146381)
All this does not answer my question!
Can I create a LQ account over the TOR network or not? If not, why not?

I don't wnat to talk about if anonymity is useful or not!
It makes sense to me!
And if everything I need for a new account never leaves the TOR network then yes it is anonimuos!

so in short the answer is yes. Most probably you can create an account using any modern browser.
regarding anonymity: either you identify yourself (by a user/passwd) or not (= be anonymous), but cannot do both in the same time. That is just nonsense.

ondoho 07-17-2020 05:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by henderson (Post 6146381)
And if everything I need for a new account never leaves the TOR network then yes it is anonimuos!

I think OP has a point there.
Use an email address created in and access only through the TOR browser, passwords that aren't used elsewhere, obviously do NOT use your real name. That's anonymous at least within the constraints of the tor network itself.

I don't feel the need to do that so absolutely, but I understand why people want it.

You all just seem to criticise OP's conviction and/or technical knowledge, skirting the actual question completely:
Quote:

Originally Posted by henderson (Post 6146000)
LQ's TOS say one may not use it anonymously? Haven't seen that.

LQ pops up a Google captcha without which I cannot complete the registration.
I have tried completing the captcha many times, over the past weeks, and it always ends in "Sorry your device is sending automated queries".

I haven't tried myself, but if what OP writes is true there is a problem. I suspect cloudflare shenanigans.
I hope jeremy has some answers here.

TB0ne 07-17-2020 07:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by henderson (Post 6146381)
All this does not answer my question! Can I create a LQ account over the TOR network or not? If not, why not?

I don't wnat to talk about if anonymity is useful or not! It makes sense to me! And if everything I need for a new account never leaves the TOR network then yes it is anonimuos!

So YOUR questions are important, but the ones we're asking you aren't??? Again: WHY do you feel the need to create multiple accounts on LQ?? What is the purpose? You obviously already have an account, why do you need more than one...especially coming from different IP addresses each time, as TOR will let you appear.

sevendogsbsd 07-17-2020 08:47 AM

TOR is not completely anonymous (yes, that's how you spell it). See this web site, which has good info on privacy and Tor. https://restoreprivacy.com/tor/.

henderson 07-18-2020 08:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wpeckham (Post 6146399)
And if everything you need for an account never leaves the TOR network, then you cannot create an account. That information MUST be delivered TO the remote host, which is NOT on the TOR network, for it to create the account. At that point you are no longer anonymous.

Who is this remote host? Linuxquestions?
Can it see my IP address when I log in with TOR Browser?

Quote:

Originally Posted by pan64 (Post 6146408)
so in short the answer is yes. Most probably you can create an account using any modern browser.
regarding anonymity: either you identify yourself (by a user/passwd) or not (= be anonymous), but cannot do both in the same time. That is just nonsense.

I will use a fictitious user and password.
My only concern is to hide my IP address.

Quote:

Originally Posted by sevendogsbsd (Post 6146458)
TOR is not completely anonymous (yes, that's how you spell it). See this web site, which has good info on privacy and Tor. https://restoreprivacy.com/tor/.

ok so TOR is not perfect. I knew that already.
I just want to keep my IP address anonymous from Linuxquestions, I am not interested in the CIA FBI.
By the way, I don't like to be compared to child molesters and terrorists. It seems that you all do just that because I want to keep my location secret.

sevendogsbsd 07-18-2020 09:30 AM

Pretty sure no one compared you to a pedophile or terrorist - chill on the paranoia there OP. Linuxquestions is the least of your worries, at least here in the US. To each his/her own though.

For the truly paranoid, run Tor through a VPN: start the VPN service then establish a Tor connection using a Whonix VM for example. I've done this and it's a tad slow but works fine and hides the Tor traffic from your ISP.


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