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Old 12-17-2010, 03:20 AM   #1
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I want an option to modify My Threads!


I believe that in one way or another this issue has been mentioned already in forums, but it was never really resolved.

To what it comes down is that I, so as any other member can't modify his/her very own thread.

At the moment I find two reasons why this should be available as an option to LQ members:
  • 1. I've made a typo or a grammar mistake in the title of the thread and I want to be able to correct that
    2. I forgot or for whatever other reason I did not add tags to the thread, so I want to do that now

As one can understand, being able to correct/add something to his/her very own thread because of reasons mentioned above would only be benefitial to anyone who might read or search for something what certain thread contains.

If I understand correctly, there is a certain but very limited amount of time when one can actually make some modifications to his/her very own thread (if that didn't change too), but I believe many will agree that it's a too limited and not practical.

One might say, having members, moderators, guests and authenticity of the thread in mind, that if one wants to modify something in his/her thread, he should contact a moderator, explain what and why he would like to modify and if the reason/s is justified, he should then be able to do that. I am strongly against forced control of any kind, except if it's well justified under certain circumstances and I would like this to be left to one's very own judgement and will, not to might be what a moderator likes or not.

Just like a member can edit his/her posts no matter how old they are I think he/she should be able to do the same with his/her threads, even if one must first contact a moderator.

I sincerely hope that this post will be well thought before a reply may happen', because it contains basic elements of freedom and a desire one might have to improve his/her very own acts, which if done in the spirit of Open Source and Free Sowtware will lead to better quality of LQ and most important, to real freedom that any GNU/Linux user should enjoy.

So what is it? Control or freedom and overall better LQ?
 
Old 12-17-2010, 03:53 AM   #2
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Hi,

I'm not sure I understand what you are trying to say. One can edit/change/modify any post made, too my knowledge the only 2 limitations are:

1) deleting a started thread,
2) moving a thread to a different (sub-) forum.

Are you talking about these 2?

You also mention tags, which aren't part of the individual posts any more but thread-wide. These tags can always be changed (by anyone, even those that are not participating in that thread).

Please elaborate if I (and maybe others) misunderstood.
 
Old 12-17-2010, 04:19 AM   #3
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Originally Posted by alan_ri View Post
If I understand correctly, there is a certain but very limited amount of time when one can actually make some modifications to his/her very own thread
I don't think that's true, it should have been but "unfortunately" it isn't!
I just clicked the Edit button of the first post of my first thread here at LQ, inserted a space and clicked save! Alas!!! It worked..

and if you are talking about thread title editing, well thank god at least that's not editable..

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but I believe many will agree that it's a too limited and not practical...I would like this to be left to one's very own judgement and will, not to might be what a moderator likes or not.
and I think that it is pathetic that I am allowed to change my thread contents even after 1 year!
Reasons:
  • There are members here who replace all the contents of their first post with a new question after the thread gets solved!
  • There are members here who simply delete their constructive posts for no apparent reasons!
  • and I have also seen some members who REPLY to their threads by modifying their first post!
and if you think that people doing these acts are "extremely" rare, then I guess you are wrong.
I honestly think that posts should not be allowed to be edited after 24 hours (without moderator intervention).
 
Old 12-17-2010, 06:19 AM   #4
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Some members post scripts or configs they feel may be useful to the community. If they need to change something, the ability to edit saves a new and possibly confusing post with others trying to figure out what is correct or corrected. I kind of like this the way it is.
 
Old 12-17-2010, 06:56 AM   #5
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Quote:
Originally Posted by druuna
I'm not sure I understand what you are trying to say. One can edit/change/modify any post made, too my knowledge the only 2 limitations are:

1) deleting a started thread,
2) moving a thread to a different (sub-) forum.

Are you talking about these 2?
No, I'm not talking about that, I'm talking for example about an option to change the thread title.
Quote:
Originally Posted by druuna
You also mention tags, which aren't part of the individual posts any more but thread-wide. These tags can always be changed (by anyone, even those that are not participating in that thread).
I've tried to add some tags to some of my old threads and I couldn't do it and are you saying that anyone can edit My Thread and add whatever tag he or she wants to it? If so, something is really bad here.

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I don't think that's true, it should have been but "unfortunately" it isn't!
And if that's true, then it's worse then I thought.

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Originally Posted by Anisha Kaul
and if you are talking about thread title editing, well thank god at least that's not editable..
So you're saying even if there is an obvious error in the thread title wich should be corrected, one should not be able to do that? Nice, really encouraging.

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and I think that it is pathetic that I am allowed to change my thread contents even after 1 year!
Well, no hard feelings, but that is pathetic opinion.

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Originally Posted by Anisha Kaul
I honestly think that posts should not be allowed to be edited after 24 hours (without moderator intervention).
Makes no sense at all and is suggesting control which I hoped I would not see ever again since I stoped using Winblow$, years ago.

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Originally Posted by mlangdn
Some members post scripts or configs they feel may be useful to the community. If they need to change something, the ability to edit saves a new and possibly confusing post with others trying to figure out what is correct or corrected. I kind of like this the way it is.
Of course that's a good thing, but I'm talking about threads not posts.

Last edited by alan_ri; 12-17-2010 at 06:57 AM.
 
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Old 12-17-2010, 07:21 AM   #6
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Well, no hard feelings, but that is pathetic opinion.
The fact that you may (or may not) immediately get the candy you crave does not mean you should not remain respectful of other peoples opinions at all times. Do try as this isn't the first time.

And while every LQ member is welcome to post his or her opinion you should realize that there are very few people who can talk authoritatively about what you ask for in relation to vBB features and shortcomings as it is configured at LQ.

Finally please remember that LQ has been here for over ten years. Access is provided to you free of cost, asking no contributions other than submitting your own questions and answering other members questions. Can you tell me how insinuations and demands (whatever happened to people asking politely?) further LQ and show respect for the person who pays for all of this out of his own pocket?
 
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Old 12-17-2010, 07:35 AM   #7
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Hi,
Quote:
Originally Posted by alan_ri View Post
No, I'm not talking about that, I'm talking for example about an option to change the thread title.
You can, even after years. I just tried and it works. You do need to go to the advanced part: Edit -> Go Advanced

Quote:
I've tried to add some tags to some of my old threads and I couldn't do it and are you saying that anyone can edit My Thread and add whatever tag he or she wants to it? If so, something is really bad here.
This also works on my side.

Both things mentioned above are tested here: Another new member (Original thread title). I also added some tags and removed one.

And Yes, one can add tags to any thread (I just added one in your first thread: This one).

Looks to me that all works as designed and that there are hardly any limits to what you are allowed to do.

Last edited by druuna; 12-17-2010 at 08:59 AM. Reason: Spelling
 
Old 12-17-2010, 09:08 PM   #8
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Makes no sense at all and is suggesting control which I hoped I would not see ever again since I stoped using Winblow$, years ago.
So you think it is justifiable that after many years/months/weeks you are able to edit your threads and thread titles even after reading the reasons I posted in my first post?

Last edited by Aquarius_Girl; 12-17-2010 at 09:45 PM.
 
Old 12-18-2010, 05:50 AM   #9
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The fact that you may (or may not) immediately get the candy you crave does not mean you should not remain respectful of other peoples opinions at all times. Do try as this isn't the first time.

And while every LQ member is welcome to post his or her opinion you should realize that there are very few people who can talk authoritatively about what you ask for in relation to vBB features and shortcomings as it is configured at LQ.

Finally please remember that LQ has been here for over ten years. Access is provided to you free of cost, asking no contributions other than submitting your own questions and answering other members questions. Can you tell me how insinuations and demands (whatever happened to people asking politely?) further LQ and show respect for the person who pays for all of this out of his own pocket?
I guess you often have nightmares, but don't dream in my neighbourhood.

Now you may close this thread.
 
Old 12-18-2010, 07:08 AM   #10
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I guess you often have nightmares, but don't dream in my neighbourhood.
Did I misunderstand this? To me, it sounds like rudeness & a personal attack. Please explain.

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Now you may close this thread.
You should know by now that we don't do that except in special circumstances.
 
Old 12-20-2010, 09:40 AM   #11
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You CAN edit the thread title!
 
Old 04-08-2011, 06:15 AM   #12
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You CAN edit the thread title!
No, we can't, in this thread: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questi...ing-it-820636/ I edited the title but it doesn't get reflected outside the thread (when you click the /General forum, this thread will be seen with the old title).

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These tags can always be changed (by anyone, even those that are not participating in that thread).
The tags cannot be changed by anyone (moderators excluded), one can only add or remove his own tags, not someone else's.

Last edited by Aquarius_Girl; 04-08-2011 at 06:37 AM.
 
Old 04-08-2011, 11:24 AM   #13
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No, we can't, in this thread: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questi...ing-it-820636/ I edited the title but it doesn't get reflected outside the thread (when you click the /General forum, this thread will be seen with the old title).
This depends on how long after the initial post the edit was made.

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The tags cannot be changed by anyone (moderators excluded), one can only add or remove his own tags, not someone else's.
Note that the new tagging system is a bit different than the old one.

--jeremy
 
Old 04-08-2011, 11:31 AM   #14
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This depends on how long after the initial post the edit was made.
I already knew that, MTK didn't agree, so that thread was an example for him.

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Note that the new tagging system is a bit different than the old one.
Don't you think you should notify the people (by creating a thread) when you make some important changes, e.g. you made a link for "Mark this thread solved" at the top of the page, and every now and then people tell the newbies to mark the thread solved by "thread tools menu", they probably don't know some other easy method also exists. Spreading the word will help LQ in general, IMHO.
 
Old 04-08-2011, 11:46 AM   #15
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Don't you think you should notify the people (by creating a thread) when you make some important changes
Like this one?

http://www.linuxquestions.org/questi...-at-lq-832360/

--jeremy
 
  


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