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Good Threads....
You know Jeremy, we spend a lot of time here (myself included) focusing on what could be improved, but I thought it was time to say what is already good about this place.
I could have zero reputation points and I'd still be happy to have partaken in the threads list below. (and LQ in general)
Why?
Because not only did the OP's in these cases show all of the effort in world to help themselves... I believe they helped me too. As, I learnt at least a few things myself and very much enjoyed working with them... even if I've never met them in person and they're probably half a world away from me. And even better, the OP was HAPPY at the end of it, yaaayy!
These are some of the BEST threads I've partaken in here:
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Originally Posted by ondoho
all 3 examples are dialogs between the OP and jsbjsb001!
so, this thread is really a Self Appretiation Thread.
1) I never said that everyone else was involved.
2) At least one of those threads did NOT just involve me and the OP.
3) You have totally missed the point of this thread and maybe are bitter that you were not involved in them. As I doubt you would be saying that if you were.
How could I have helped ANY of these OP's without this site? It's not "ondoho's LQ" now is it?
You must be a pretty miserable person, that's all I can say.
PS: With all of the posts you have made here, I think you must think that the world just must be hanging on every word you say.
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My apologies Jeremy, I wasn't trying to break any of the rules. I was only trying to say the despite whatever issues there may be here, it's a good site with good members.
I wasn't trying to say something like "look at me, look at me, look how good I am", I did honesty did enjoy the threads I linked for the reasons I stated in post #1.
My feedback on two of those three threads are just some future thoughts to recommend:
The one about the desktop that is very long and ultimately did end up getting solved, it would have been beneficial to ask the OP to mark the thread as solved, with your closing remarks to them.
The one about a script which happened to be in Newbie, I'd recommend in the future to report ones about scripts in order to get them moved to Programming. I know the user is a new member and we do respond to script questions in the Newbie forum, however I feel a lot of other LQ members might have responded to that one if it were in the Programming forum.
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First, I'd like to say that the following is NOT intended to be a rant in anyway. Nor is it's aimed at anyone in particular and I'm trying to generally speak here. But anyway moving on and to the points I'd like to make...
I'd like to very much thank rtmistler for his constructive feedback and comments to this thread.
As unlike post #3, this kind of reply not only makes me want to continue participating here... it gives not only myself but anyone reading this some very good pointers on how to best deal with questions that come in here. And I believe that last point can help everybody here.
And while I will admit that I was not intending on replying to this thread anymore (particularly given that at least a few members have completely missed the point of it), I would like to say a few other things both in reply to rtmistler's comments as well as the topic in general;
I first wish to state that if I had no interest in trying to help people here, weather that be those that are new and have just joined or longer term members, I would not be participating at all for any reasons. (and would NOT be full stop)
I would also like to say that while I can understand people for wanting to "blow off some steam" in the non-technical "General" forum and I can admit that I'm also guilty of that as much as any of the others that post there;
I have to be honest in saying that I found post #3 to be quite dis-hearting and to at least some extent quite rude. And I would just like to say to everyone here (weather you believe me or not) that I participate here because I like to see people using Linux and being able to get some pointers where they get stuck. I don't have much knowledge about the BSD's and other similar systems, so I can't really help too much with those questions.
If I see a question where I don't know what the answer to it is, I will either let other more knowledgeable members answer it instead, or I will ask the OP to provide more info to help other members answer it. I do not regard this place as a contest of who knows more than who, as, a) I'm quite sure and would bet on the fact that there are several different members I can think of, just off the top of my head, that would know a lot more than myself. (about any number of things BTW) and b) my understanding of the reasons behind this site are to try and help people with their Linux/UNIX problems, so they hopefully don't give up on the system.
And I don't understand why clearly there are a few members want to have a go at someone, who is just trying to help whoever they can, and expressing the FACT, that without this site; I could NEVER have done any of that nor helped anyone here. As THAT was one of the main reasons for myself starting this thread, as well as to give other members somewhere where they could also post some of their favourite threads here, that they have been involved in themselves.
While I'm not perfect myself by any margin, I thought that comments such as post #3 and particularly the reputation that has been given to it, not only speaks volumes about the posters concerned, I don't agree that it's upholding the ethos of this site and is pretty poor behaviour under the circumstances.
And finally, as I've said both publicly and privately, I have absolutely zero problem with people here making their points and disagreeing with me. I never have expected that everyone here would just agree with me all of the time, I have even ignored comments that I have disagreed with, instead of replying to start an argument about them.
I just hope that my thoughts that the vast majority of members here are good people that just want to try and help were-ever they can, are not misplaced. And for the record I believe that this IS true here. I would also like to thank at least a few members that expressed their support for me privately.
I would also like to apologise to any members that may have mis-understood the intent behind this thread.
Last edited by jsbjsb001; 01-02-2018 at 03:02 AM.
Reason: corrections/typo
First, I'd like to say that the following is NOT intended to be a rant in anyway. Nor is it's aimed at anyone in particular and I'm trying to generally speak here. But anyway moving on and to the points I'd like to make...
I'd like to very much thank rtmistler for his constructive feedback and comments to this thread.
As unlike post #3, this kind of reply not only makes me want to continue participating here... it gives not only myself but anyone reading this some very good pointers on how to best deal with questions that come in here. And I believe that last point can help everybody here.
And while I will admit that I was not intending on replying to this thread anymore (particularly given that at least a few members have completely missed the point of it), I would like to say a few other things both in reply to rtmistler's comments as well as the topic in general;
I first wish to state that if I had no interest in trying to help people here, weather that be those that are new and have just joined or longer term members, I would not be participating at all for any reasons. (and would NOT be full stop)
I would also like to say that while I can understand people for wanting to "blow off some steam" in the non-technical "General" forum and I can admit that I'm also guilty of that as much as any of the others that post there;
I have to be honest in saying that I found post #3 to be quite dis-hearting and to at least some extent quite rude. And I would just like to say to everyone here (weather you believe me or not) that I participate here because I like to see people using Linux and being able to get some pointers where they get stuck. I don't have much knowledge about the BSD's and other similar systems, so I can't really help too much with those questions.
If I see a question where I don't know what the answer to it is, I will either let other more knowledgeable members answer it instead, or I will ask the OP to provide more info to help other members answer it. I do not regard this place as a contest of who knows more than who, as, a) I'm quite sure and would bet on the fact that there are several different members I can think of, just off the top of my head, that would know a lot more than myself. (about any number of things BTW) and b) my understanding of the reasons behind this site are to try and help people with their Linux/UNIX problems, so they hopefully don't give up on the system.
And I don't understand why clearly there are a few members want to have a go at someone, who is just trying to help whoever they can, and expressing the FACT, that without this site; I could NEVER have done any of that nor helped anyone here. As THAT was one of the main reasons for myself starting this thread, as well as to give other members somewhere where they could also post some of their favourite threads here, that they have been involved in themselves.
While I'm not perfect myself by any margin, I thought that comments such as post #3 and particularly the reputation that has been given to it, not only speaks volumes about the posters concerned, I don't agree that it's upholding the ethos of this site and is pretty poor behaviour under the circumstances.
And finally, as I've said both publicly and privately, I have absolutely zero problem with people here making their points and disagreeing with me. I never have expected that everyone here would just agree with me all of the time, I have even ignored comments that I have disagreed with, instead of replying to start an argument about them.
I just hope that my thoughts that the vast majority of members here are good people that just want to try and help were-ever they can, are not misplaced. And for the record I believe that this IS true here. I would also like to thank at least a few members that expressed their support for me privately.
I would also like to apologise to any members that may have mis-understood the intent behind this thread.
"if you are not with me, you are against me" - or so you seem to be thinking.
you are really thinking too much into my reply.
the fact that i pointed out a narcissistic streak in your OP does not mean that those threads weren't helpful, or that i disagree with pointing out how good it is to be able to actually help here at LQ.
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Originally Posted by ChuangTzu
Whats the sound of one hand clapping?
ChuangTzu,
While I was even thinking of removing you from my Ignore List, I don't think I will be now. Don't get me wrong, I'm sure you don't care about that anymore than myself - and that's no issue with me either. But just so you know, the only reason I even saw your reply was because I was not logged in at the time.
I have no intention of responding to any of your reply's, if others wish to, that's up to them.
(and I've only responded in this case to tell you that)
I've always heard the saying No Good Deed goes Unpunished
Everyone here enjoys a good thread where they can actually do some good and even more so with an OP that helps you help him.
Everyone one at LQ is important(even trolls, they keep it interesting, someone to vent the steam of LQ members). So no need the fight here, save it for trolls.
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