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Thanks for the feedback. While we strive very hard at LQ to be a place that can be enjoyed by all members, we certainly have no intention of allowing members to participate for the sole purpose of trolling other members. We have a fairly well honed procedure in place for warning and then (as a last resort) banning members who are unable or unwilling to follow the rules of the forum. If you think there are specific instances where we have failed to stop a members whose *sole* intention is to instigate, feel free to let us know (publicly or privately). The mod team and I are always willing to review and improve our policies and procedures based on member feedback and experience.

--jeremy

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I have publicly stated the thread in which we were told not to feed the (as designated by a moderator no less) troll (who the moderator named not only his current nick but also a previous one that was banned). Said troll has continued trolling in said thread and even today (or yesterday depending on your time zone) has posted this
I understand we can use the report posts but I was encouraged by a moderator to open a discussion here about such matters so here we are discussing it.

Regardless of whether or not this person is a troll (I am not familiar him.), the quoted post is not trolling. I have posted worse, and do not consider myself a troll. Others may disagree, but personally, I think the problem is a mole hill being turned into a mountain.

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I think you're thinking to hard on this. It is really quite simple and no mountain is being made from any molehill. It is not that he is trolling (and he is and a moderator labelled hims as one, which is another matter altogether) it is that he is allowed to troll yet we are told (by mods) not to respond to him. LQ is either an open forum or it is not, I respect that it is moderated but moderation should be the same for all concerned. If they can troll then we should be allowed to respond without being told not to. If we can't respond then it is just easier to boot them when they are labelled as trolls by those in authority. Simple and sweet and not to difficult for anyone to understand if they don't think to hard about it.

I believe the hypothesis I put forth in post #8 is an appropriate answer to your concern. The board is moderated, but members also have responsibility to policy themselves. If someone is trolling, we must decide if feeding the creature is helpful, deleterious or neutral to the atmosphere of the board.

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Maybe I'm not being as clear as I should be so let me spell it out, again.

Troll posts, moderator labels person as troll yet tells everyone else not to feed troll explaining trolls history. I make simple statement (it wasn't a question), moderator tells me to ask questions of such like here (I never asked a question in that thread concerning this but was prompted to ask the question about trolls so I posted my OP in this thread which was still a suggestion). If that is making a mountain out of a molehill then my engineering feats rival those of the ancients.

Your hypothesis may fit your belief, and I have no doubt it does, but it does not answer my concern. Why? My initial post was not a question it was a statement so there is no answer to give. If you believe otherwise and believe this is a mountain from a molehill exercise then why are you taking part? Why are you trying to make it bigger than it was? Do you not need to decide whether your conversation with me here is helpful, etc. etc? Do you think posting in said thread after moderator intervention is helpful? Do you think continuing so much that another member has said, in Italian I think, "shut up" that your decision to continue is helpful?

I know you want to respond to this but remember I made a suggestion, I don't need guidance (or answers) when I am not taking part anymore in that thread.

guys, k3lt01 is trolling you now

do not feed the troll

Your message is very clear. You think it is inconsistent for moderators to urge non-interaction with known trolls, but not take action against said trolls. The question is, how many of the board's members share your concern? That will be known after the thread runs its course.

Actually, if I were to express my opinion, if would be a call for less moderation, not more.

Although there is a period instead of a question mark, it looks like a question to me, unless it was rhetorical. But then, there would have been no need to post it.

I am participating in a discussion that you started.

My participation was helpful when I answered your concern (not question). It is not helpful now, with the discussion having turned in the direction of repetition.

No. Further posting only fed the troll.

And I did.


Perhaps.

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It doesn't matter what LQ's members think, it matters what people like Jeremy think thus the prompting by a moderator to post here in suggestions and feedback. Jeremy is the arbiter of these matters.

Good idea, lets see how many times people get told not to feed trolls because that is moderation.

Your an educated person but I do not know what your mother tongue is. I write as I think, if it was a question it would have a question mark.

But one you think is a mountain made from a molehill! If you consider you own hypothesis your further interaction is not doing anything but keeping it going but then again your starting to show this as your tactic in this and the other thread.

You didn't answer my concern. You may have developed your own hypothesis but you did not answer my concern. As for repetition, it seems I am repeating myself for you.

Against moderator "suggestion" and the wishes of other members who appear to be getting a little bit cranky about it.

And I'm sure you will continue in this and the other thread.

I'm responding to you not trolling you. However, you admitted to trolling the other thread to feed said troll.

Let me give the FNG perspective.

I don't come here much because this place is painfully slow questions can sit for days with no response because of that I don't see much trolling at all. Maybe I'm not hanging out in the right places but this place is mild compared to OCN, MR and The Arch forums. My opinion is there seems to be much ado being made over nothing. If you think a mod made a bad call ask the Mod himself publicly airing dirty laundry is bad form.

It was a warning that this person can turn to seem or flat out become trollish, debadibly anyone, the warning was for *us* like who in my case and Randicus Draco Albus have never seen this poster. Should the mods have to run around handing out troll gloves, hanging troll signs or should we be big boys and girls who if in the wild know how to handle them self's (maybe even domesticate the beast;) perhaps K3 just should put up a lot more blinders and walls? I was his first and I'd consider him moreoften worse than me or many...

To clarify two different situations:

For members who have a history of trolling but also at times constructively add to LQ, there is a policy of attempted rehabilitation. In that context, "not feeding the troll" is a beneficial part of that attempted rehabilitation.

For members who have a history of trolling but do not constructively add to LQ and who appear unlikely to ever do so, we have a policy of public warning, private conversation and then ban.

IMHO these are two very different situations that should be handled differently.

--jeremy

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Good way to see it thanks.

Also, theirs plenty of commands and code to make trolls...

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