LinuxQuestions.org
Visit Jeremy's Blog.
Go Back   LinuxQuestions.org > Forums > LinuxQuestions.org > LQ Suggestions & Feedback
User Name
Password
LQ Suggestions & Feedback Do you have a suggestion for this site or an idea that will make the site better? This forum is for you.
PLEASE READ THIS FORUM - Information and status updates will also be posted here.

Notices


Reply
  Search this Thread
Old 09-09-2018, 01:25 AM   #16
Randicus Draco Albus
Senior Member
 
Registered: May 2011
Location: Hiding somewhere on planet Earth.
Distribution: No distribution. OpenBSD operating system
Posts: 1,711
Blog Entries: 8

Rep: Reputation: 635Reputation: 635Reputation: 635Reputation: 635Reputation: 635Reputation: 635

Quote:
Originally Posted by ondoho View Post
We have a set of rules. We have moderators.
Is this not an analogy to "laws" and "law enforcement"?
I would argue they not analogous. LQ would be analogous to a club. A club can have rules regarding dress code and behaviour that are irrelevant outside the club. The rules are not laws and club personnel are not law enforcement. The club is for people who share an interest, philosophy, etc.

Is LQ over-moderated? I say yes. Some members will agree and others will disagree. A few would probably like more moderation. The bottom line is people decide whether or not to be part of the board. Those who find the rules too onerous will not stay. As above, a club (or forum) is for people who share an interest, philosophy, etc. In this case, an interest in computers and operating systems.
 
1 members found this post helpful.
Old 09-09-2018, 02:23 AM   #17
ondoho
LQ Addict
 
Registered: Dec 2013
Posts: 19,872

Original Poster
Blog Entries: 12

Rep: Reputation: 6053Reputation: 6053Reputation: 6053Reputation: 6053Reputation: 6053Reputation: 6053Reputation: 6053Reputation: 6053Reputation: 6053Reputation: 6053Reputation: 6053
@Habitual:
I have noticed that the tone of your posts has changed, long term, without becoming lifeless.

Quote:
Originally Posted by hydrurga View Post
The most important thing on LQ is to provide practical advice and support to those using Linux while making these forums an enjoyable place for people to visit. That's it, full stop.
no, it isn't.
i bet nobody comes here solely for that.
everybody also wants communication with peers, an encouraging clap on the shoulder, a good argument, a chance to vent some steam, or plain entertainment.
(oh, i can now see that you put a nice backdoor in your statement: "...while making these forums an enjoyable place for people to visit" - that makes it almost as ambiguous and flexible as our forum "rules")

Quote:
I can't understand why you're making this out to be all about you and your personality and your right to do whatever you wish.
i decided to write this thread, for variuous reasons. once. i'm not always doing this.

i am perfectly aware that my freedom ends where it infringes on somebody elses freedom.

this is not about total freedom, it's about me in real life vs. me on LQ; it's about being able to take it seriously, not about rebelling.
It's a complex topic, please go back to post #1 and read it again. all of it. took me a week to write it.

PS:
can't help but notice that not a single moderator has said anything so far.

Last edited by ondoho; 09-09-2018 at 02:34 AM.
 
2 members found this post helpful.
Old 09-09-2018, 02:49 AM   #18
Michael Uplawski
Senior Member
 
Registered: Dec 2015
Location: Non. Je suis propriétaire – No. I am an owner.
Distribution: Apple-selling shops, markets and direct marketing: customers find the farm and buy apples.
Posts: 1,608
Blog Entries: 40

Rep: Reputation: 796Reputation: 796Reputation: 796Reputation: 796Reputation: 796Reputation: 796Reputation: 796
Quote:
Originally Posted by wpeckham View Post
I put it out for consideration that if you feel this (very liberal and open) forum mistreats you or that the rules are not to your liking that the problem is not really with the forum.
I am just picking one point at a time to be efficient. This does not indicate that I deem this more important than all the other aspects presented and handled in this thread.

As long a you talk about “This” forum, LQ, here, where we are, at this time, I must agree. But let us be clear about this point. Everybody belonging to a minority and more often having a mind of her/his own, can and will be mistreated once in a while due to whichever reasons can exist to exclude individuals.

The problem *can* exactly be with “the forum” or rather with the people constituting “the forum”. I cannot heap reproaches on “You”, who are “The Forum” which would be sufficiently examined to become pertinent in the context of this thread.

But I stick to my previous conclusion:

Preventing law enforcement from becoming law enforcer's personal act is a continued exercise which asks for permanent attention, permanent commitment and the free space to exercise some kind of influence on the interested public. It is an engagement in itself and I am not sure that the team has taken provisions in this respect.

... I come up with a bizarre example, but maybe it is descriptive enough. There are many movements in France who propose alternative life-styles and alternatives to industrial production of whatever.., food mostly. Their supporters are always super-friendly, super-communicative, super-... homogeneous (little sparkling stars in their eyes). I once asked about what they will do, when the first guy who fails to meet their high standards suicides.

And how often (in raw numbers) this will be condoned as a system-immanent risk.

... after this, I remember the same kind of problem with pressure-groups inside the German catholic church. My French example is an exact reproduction of what I would write about them. The individual is integrated until she/he breaks. Now this *is* and has always been a problem of the Forum and its rules, not the individual.

Last edited by Michael Uplawski; 09-10-2018 at 12:46 PM. Reason: Kraut2English „Das Individuum” being more pratical than she/he
 
1 members found this post helpful.
Old 09-09-2018, 04:05 AM   #19
ondoho
LQ Addict
 
Registered: Dec 2013
Posts: 19,872

Original Poster
Blog Entries: 12

Rep: Reputation: 6053Reputation: 6053Reputation: 6053Reputation: 6053Reputation: 6053Reputation: 6053Reputation: 6053Reputation: 6053Reputation: 6053Reputation: 6053Reputation: 6053
^ hadn't noticed the quoted statement before.
slick, wpeckham.
another bomb, another of those simplifed statements, in perfectly neutral phrasing, yet clearly hostile: take it or leave it.
continue repeating catchphrases like these, you might get your simpler world one day.

all in all, i can only point people back to the first post.
Even though the Conclusion might be difficult to grasp for some, please refrain from putting words in my mouth.

PS:
Quote:
Originally Posted by ondoho View Post
can't help but notice that not a single moderator has said anything so far.
Quote:
Originally Posted by ondoho View Post
negative emotions I get from moderator warnings.
I definitely need to stop discussing things with them.
oops, my bad.
i should've specified in post #1 that i won't engage in PM discussions anymore.
I much more prefer an open forum (sic) for discussion. many ears hear more, many viewpoints help to see things better.
 
1 members found this post helpful.
Old 09-09-2018, 05:15 AM   #20
hydrurga
LQ Guru
 
Registered: Nov 2008
Location: Pictland
Distribution: Linux Mint 21 MATE
Posts: 8,048
Blog Entries: 5

Rep: Reputation: 2925Reputation: 2925Reputation: 2925Reputation: 2925Reputation: 2925Reputation: 2925Reputation: 2925Reputation: 2925Reputation: 2925Reputation: 2925Reputation: 2925
Quote:
Originally Posted by ondoho View Post
no, it isn't.
i bet nobody comes here solely for that.
everybody also wants communication with peers, an encouraging clap on the shoulder, a good argument, a chance to vent some steam, or plain entertainment.
(oh, i can now see that you put a nice backdoor in your statement: "...while making these forums an enjoyable place for people to visit" - that makes it almost as ambiguous and flexible as our forum "rules")
You've lost that bet. Personally I have other forums that I use for social interaction. I come on LQ simply to help others. Taking part in a thread like this is an exception of course, but I thought that your comments merited a reply.
 
Old 09-09-2018, 05:20 AM   #21
fatmac
LQ Guru
 
Registered: Sep 2011
Location: Upper Hale, Surrey/Hants Border, UK
Distribution: Mainly Devuan with some Tiny Core, Fatdog, Haiku, & BSD thrown in.
Posts: 5,443

Rep: Reputation: Disabled
Quote:
Originally Posted by ondoho View Post
PS:
can't help but notice that not a single moderator has said anything so far.
A good moderator will let this thread run for about a week before considering a reply, taking in you own grievance, & the responses of members who have taken the time to respond here, (it's what I would do - & yes, I moderate on a few different forums).
 
2 members found this post helpful.
Old 09-09-2018, 02:36 PM   #22
cynwulf
Senior Member
 
Registered: Apr 2005
Posts: 2,727

Rep: Reputation: 2367Reputation: 2367Reputation: 2367Reputation: 2367Reputation: 2367Reputation: 2367Reputation: 2367Reputation: 2367Reputation: 2367Reputation: 2367Reputation: 2367
Quote:
Originally Posted by ondoho View Post
another bomb, another of those simplifed statements, in perfectly neutral phrasing, yet clearly hostile: take it or leave it.
I had the misfortune to deal with my energy provider's "customer services" people recently - "we're sorry that you feel that we...".

On a forum such as this one, where ultimately no one - not the moderators, nor the members - are paid to be here - and where none are "customers" - we could at least be honest and forthright with each other.

Also, your experience is not necessarily my experience. If someone falls foul of the moderators it does not necessarily make them some kind of "forum criminal".

Moderators are just people, they make decisions based on their own ideals, prejudices and biases. I could like this site, it's members, it's admin and despise all of the moderators and have constant run ins and disagreements with them - none of these are mutually exlusive (just an example - the moderators can rest easy...).

Some members are more on the radar than others, some members report each other, out of some historic petty disagreement, some follow each other to other threads and attempt to highlight each others defects. All very silly.

On a forum I used to frequent, some of our best members were the cranky and annoying types, but every forum needs diversity to thrive. Too many cranky and annoying members and it will fail, too many politically correct "help-bots" and it will also fail. Balance is needed, but both types need to coexist...

I agree with ondoho, that more transparency from the staff side of things can only be a good thing, but ultimately that's up to Jeremy.

Last edited by cynwulf; 09-09-2018 at 02:51 PM.
 
1 members found this post helpful.
Old 09-09-2018, 06:16 PM   #23
jlinkels
LQ Guru
 
Registered: Oct 2003
Location: Bonaire, Leeuwarden
Distribution: Debian /Jessie/Stretch/Sid, Linux Mint DE
Posts: 5,195

Rep: Reputation: 1043Reputation: 1043Reputation: 1043Reputation: 1043Reputation: 1043Reputation: 1043Reputation: 1043Reputation: 1043
@ondoho: I have to agree with the point you made. What strikes me as well is that the mods are very tolerant towards newbies. If they lose their patience, become harsh, rude or insulting it is often ignored.

Even when I report such behavior, it is often not corrected.

Even worse, I have seen replies to insulting posts of newbies, them being corrected by long term members, and then the person correcting the newbie was reprimanded.

I have been away from LQ for I think almost 2 years exactly for that reason. I came back, but the situation is still the same. There might be a day that it annoys me so much that I stop waisting my time here.

jlinkels
 
4 members found this post helpful.
Old 09-09-2018, 10:14 PM   #24
jsbjsb001
Senior Member
 
Registered: Mar 2009
Location: Earth, unfortunately...
Distribution: Currently: OpenMandriva. Previously: openSUSE, PCLinuxOS, CentOS, among others over the years.
Posts: 3,881

Rep: Reputation: 2063Reputation: 2063Reputation: 2063Reputation: 2063Reputation: 2063Reputation: 2063Reputation: 2063Reputation: 2063Reputation: 2063Reputation: 2063Reputation: 2063
Quote:
Originally Posted by jlinkels View Post
...What strikes me as well is that the mods are very tolerant towards newbies. If they lose their patience, become harsh, rude or insulting it is often ignored.

Even when I report such behavior, it is often not corrected.

Even worse, I have seen replies to insulting posts of newbies, them being corrected by long term members, and then the person correcting the newbie was reprimanded.
I know exactly what you mean. I had the same situation myself just recently and I ended up with a warning for it. The OP was rude and insulting from the start. I basically said something to the effect of "look, you're coming here asking a bunch of strangers for advice, and you have not provided enough info. Could you be more clear?" I'm not going to name the mod in question nor the thread, as I don't wish to single anyone out and that's not the point of this post. I will also point out that the warning I got was from a mod who isn't even a mod for that particular forum either. Which makes it even more bizarre that the mod's for that particular forum didn't see anything wrong with my post, but another mod did and gave me a warning for it.

I don't think the above is fair. Look, if it's clear that the post was just trolling, was intended to be rude and insulting then I get it. Fine. But in the example I've given, none of that was true. I have PM'ed Jeremy about it and await his response to having the warning lifted, and may have to send him another PM about it given it has been some time since his last PM about it to me. So I absolutely agree with your point jlinkels.

As I was saying in my last post to this thread; I don't think the problem is just with the mod's.

Quote:
I have been away from LQ for I think almost 2 years exactly for that reason. I came back, but the situation is still the same. There might be a day that it annoys me so much that I stop waisting my time here.
jlinkels
I've been mulling over whether or not to keep participating here for a while now and still am. I would hate to see you leave here jlinkels and hope you keep participating here. I for one highly value your knowledge and contributions here.

But I think this is the point: if such continues, and enough long term members feel the same way, that's only going to be bad for the forum.

I think at least a part of the problem (as I touched on before) is that depending on the mod (and normal member), they may have a different interpretation of a post(s) to another mod/member. I think that the rules need to be applied the same, and the "line" needs to be clear so that everyone understands where it is. It doesn't seem to me that where the "line" is, is always clear even to the mods.

Also, I don't think being friendly at any cost is fair on a member(s) trying to help when they are under verbal attack from an OP that just wants an answer, and doesn't provide enough info to begin with. I think that if I'm responding to a thread and I'm honestly just trying to help/answer it, and the OP wants to be rude/insulting because they don't like something I've said; that they are the one that needs the warning and not the member who's just responding to them. As I said to the same mod privately in a PM (although I think I misspelt the word "treat" and wrote "threat" instead), I treat people how they treat me. I'm the same in real life, I don't change just because I'm online and you can't physically see me. I don't think some members here understand that about me. I think also that some members have long memories and just don't let past grievances slide, and then post to antagonize the person that they feel has "wronged them" in the past.

"Some members are more on the radar than others, some members report each other, out of some historic petty disagreement, some follow each other to other threads and attempt to highlight each others defects. All very silly."

Yeah exactly, but unfortunately even some members that point this out I've seen do the same. But yes, this is more or less what I'm talking about above to a large degree.

The problem is with both *some* normal members and mods, not just one or the other.
 
1 members found this post helpful.
Old 09-11-2018, 01:05 AM   #25
ondoho
LQ Addict
 
Registered: Dec 2013
Posts: 19,872

Original Poster
Blog Entries: 12

Rep: Reputation: 6053Reputation: 6053Reputation: 6053Reputation: 6053Reputation: 6053Reputation: 6053Reputation: 6053Reputation: 6053Reputation: 6053Reputation: 6053Reputation: 6053
Quote:
Originally Posted by hydrurga View Post
The most important thing on LQ is to provide practical advice and support to those using Linux while making these forums an enjoyable place for people to visit. That's it, full stop.
Quote:
Originally Posted by ondoho View Post
no, it isn't.
i bet nobody comes here solely for that.
everybody also wants communication with peers, an encouraging clap on the shoulder, a good argument, a chance to vent some steam, or plain entertainment.
(oh, i can now see that you put a nice backdoor in your statement: "...while making these forums an enjoyable place for people to visit" - that makes it almost as ambiguous and flexible as our forum "rules")
Quote:
Originally Posted by hydrurga View Post
You've lost that bet. Personally I have other forums that I use for social interaction. I come on LQ simply to help others. Taking part in a thread like this is an exception of course, but I thought that your comments merited a reply.
I really like you, hydrurga - but only a true geek could could believe that they could separate one from the other 100%. machines might work like that, people don't. sorry for the name-calling, respect, peace out.

incidentally this is something i wanted to expand on much more in my OP (i think it has a strong bearing on my issue), but it strays a little from the topic (and the OP is already long enough as it is), so i left it at that:
Quote:
Originally Posted by ondoho View Post
"This is a Linux Forum" - yes, it is. But wherever people come together to discuss whatever, the sociological, emotional and psychological aspects, and aspects of communication and language, are just as important as the (technical) topics.
I have always been very interested in these aspects, and often found that the solution to a problem lies there, and not on the technical side.
____________________________________________________________

and just a general thank you to everyone responding here.
i'm taking it all in, and it's appreciated.
 
1 members found this post helpful.
Old 09-11-2018, 05:36 AM   #26
hazel
LQ Guru
 
Registered: Mar 2016
Location: Harrow, UK
Distribution: LFS, AntiX, Slackware
Posts: 7,499
Blog Entries: 19

Rep: Reputation: 4410Reputation: 4410Reputation: 4410Reputation: 4410Reputation: 4410Reputation: 4410Reputation: 4410Reputation: 4410Reputation: 4410Reputation: 4410Reputation: 4410
I just hope we're not going to have a schism here like they had in Debian Forums a few years ago. I used to go there for a while but didn't much like the way they used to flame newbies who asked what they considered to be silly questions. Well, that's a matter of personal taste and I myself have grown more acerbic over the years. But apparently the mods also decided that it was too robust and tried to make it more like Ubuntu Forums. The result was a serious quarrel and some of their oldest and most respected members (including Cynwulf I believe) forked off their own forum where they could say more or less what they wanted. I would be sorry if the same thing happened here.

Last edited by hazel; 09-11-2018 at 05:38 AM.
 
Old 09-11-2018, 05:59 AM   #27
hydrurga
LQ Guru
 
Registered: Nov 2008
Location: Pictland
Distribution: Linux Mint 21 MATE
Posts: 8,048
Blog Entries: 5

Rep: Reputation: 2925Reputation: 2925Reputation: 2925Reputation: 2925Reputation: 2925Reputation: 2925Reputation: 2925Reputation: 2925Reputation: 2925Reputation: 2925Reputation: 2925
Quote:
Originally Posted by ondoho View Post
I really like you, hydrurga - but only a true geek could could believe that they could separate one from the other 100%. machines might work like that, people don't. sorry for the name-calling, respect, peace out.
I'm in no way saying that we can't help people without some friendliness and humour (although that can be tricky as senses of humour differ around the world) or without some form of character. Otherwise it would be as dry as a bone and that would be no fun.

However, I personally do have a couple of other forums where I go to in order to chat to folk on a social level - LQ isn't the place I come for that (except for the occasional PM chat on here).

I've noticed a huge variation in the ability of newbies to understand English and express themselves on LQ and I feel that we have to keep the environment fairly dry in order that folk who come here have more of a chance of understanding what we're actually communicating to them. There are often responses from seasoned posters on here, usually very quickly written it seems with very few words, that even I am left thinking "what on earth does that mean?!", so I'm sure new posters do too. Many jokes and asides for example may involve American culture - how is someone from down-town Karachi or rural Kenya going to understand those? I also think we should be giving posters the benefit of the doubt and assuming that they have no clue about even the smallest things like searching on the web for a solution. We shouldn't be assuming they're our younger brother or sister and just being lazy or obtuse. So, the aim of helping, in the most effective and friendly way we can, should be absolutely the number one priority.

I always thought that the General subforum was the place folk went to for a bit of fun and to let their hair down on here, and that the rest of the forum was meant to be more "professional"?

Anyway, none of this is directed at you, ondoho - there are simply my general thoughts.
 
Old 09-11-2018, 08:13 AM   #28
cynwulf
Senior Member
 
Registered: Apr 2005
Posts: 2,727

Rep: Reputation: 2367Reputation: 2367Reputation: 2367Reputation: 2367Reputation: 2367Reputation: 2367Reputation: 2367Reputation: 2367Reputation: 2367Reputation: 2367Reputation: 2367
Quote:
Originally Posted by hazel View Post
I just hope we're not going to have a schism here like they had in Debian Forums a few years ago. I used to go there for a while but didn't much like the way they used to flame newbies who asked what they considered to be silly questions. Well, that's a matter of personal taste and I myself have grown more acerbic over the years. But apparently the mods also decided that it was too robust and tried to make it more like Ubuntu Forums. The result was a serious quarrel and some of their oldest and most respected members (including Cynwulf I believe) forked off their own forum where they could say more or less what they wanted. I would be sorry if the same thing happened here.
I feel that I must point out that I was not one of the "oldest and most respected members". I was simply the person who was banned and the last straw which broke the camel's back for many.

There were many, long gone and forgotten, who well deserved that title. Though their reputations were trashed and smeared and contribution dismissed by the staff and fanbois who remained at the old forum. Many went to the new forum, many did not, almost none are still around today and the "new" forum is practically dead (they wrote ~ 90% of the most valuable content at the old forum).

That's what happens if you treat volunteers in such a manner.
Quote:
Originally Posted by hydrurga View Post
I'm in no way saying that we can't help people without some friendliness and humour (although that can be tricky as senses of humour differ around the world) or without some form of character. Otherwise it would be as dry as a bone and that would be no fun.

However, I personally do have a couple of other forums where I go to in order to chat to folk on a social level - LQ isn't the place I come for that (except for the occasional PM chat on here).
While I accept that this might not be your chosen "social interaction venue", from my perspective it's very simple: If I am e.g. a random Red Hat user with many years of experience (and so presumably a lot to offer the forum technically), why should I be here? If it's not to interact with peers (let's face it you can't sit on the train or the pub and strike up a conversation about Linux...) then what is the point? As free volunteer technical support? What is in it for me? I don't get a wedge of the ad revenue in my back pocket, so why bother...?

Quote:
Originally Posted by hydrurga View Post
I've noticed a huge variation in the ability of newbies to understand English and express themselves on LQ and I feel that we have to keep the environment fairly dry in order that folk who come here have more of a chance of understanding what we're actually communicating to them.
Too dry will offend one half, too much the other way offends the other. When all is said and done this is specifically an English language forum. Speakers of other languages do have similar resources in their languages and it's doubtful that they tone things down to appease English speakers...

Quote:
Originally Posted by hydrurga View Post
I also think we should be giving posters the benefit of the doubt and assuming that they have no clue about even the smallest things like searching on the web for a solution. We shouldn't be assuming they're our younger brother or sister and just being lazy or obtuse. So, the aim of helping, in the most effective and friendly way we can, should be absolutely the number one priority.
Here I agree, but once the OP reveals themselves as a complete cretin, those responding should not have moderators, or report button happy, self appointed moderators all over their case. In the past, I've responded to threads where I've wondered why I even bothered. I've used my time to try and assist someone with a problem - and then been informed that my response (to their poorly worded mess of a question) does not fit their exacting requirements.

Quote:
Originally Posted by hydrurga View Post
I always thought that the General subforum was the place folk went to for a bit of fun and to let their hair down on here, and that the rest of the forum was meant to be more "professional"?
Unless Jeremy wanted to pay the volunteers who make this place, "professionalism" is not a given.

Last edited by cynwulf; 09-11-2018 at 08:16 AM.
 
Old 09-11-2018, 08:31 AM   #29
dugan
LQ Guru
 
Registered: Nov 2003
Location: Canada
Distribution: distro hopper
Posts: 11,198

Rep: Reputation: 5307Reputation: 5307Reputation: 5307Reputation: 5307Reputation: 5307Reputation: 5307Reputation: 5307Reputation: 5307Reputation: 5307Reputation: 5307Reputation: 5307
Quote:
Originally Posted by hazel View Post
I just hope we're not going to have a schism here like they had in Debian Forums a few years ago. I used to go there for a while but didn't much like the way they used to flame newbies who asked what they considered to be silly questions. Well, that's a matter of personal taste and I myself have grown more acerbic over the years. But apparently the mods also decided that it was too robust and tried to make it more like Ubuntu Forums. The result was a serious quarrel and some of their oldest and most respected members (including Cynwulf I believe) forked off their own forum where they could say more or less what they wanted. I would be sorry if the same thing happened here.
That (or something similar) happened with the Puppy forums too, didn't it?
 
Old 09-11-2018, 08:37 AM   #30
hydrurga
LQ Guru
 
Registered: Nov 2008
Location: Pictland
Distribution: Linux Mint 21 MATE
Posts: 8,048
Blog Entries: 5

Rep: Reputation: 2925Reputation: 2925Reputation: 2925Reputation: 2925Reputation: 2925Reputation: 2925Reputation: 2925Reputation: 2925Reputation: 2925Reputation: 2925Reputation: 2925
Quote:
Originally Posted by cynwulf View Post
... then what is the point? As free volunteer technical support? What is in it for me? I don't get a wedge of the ad revenue in my back pocket, so why bother...?
The satisfaction of helping others and, as a bonus, helping them to use an operating system that you enjoy and believe in?

Does everything have to involve monetary gain?

It would be a shame if such altruism is now treated as being an exceptional case in society.
 
2 members found this post helpful.
  


Reply


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
An open letter pebmich LinuxQuestions.org Member Intro 3 06-17-2010 03:52 PM
LXer: Open letter to Nexon LXer Syndicated Linux News 0 11-26-2009 08:42 PM
An Open Letter To NVIDIA DragonSlayer48DX Linux - News 26 03-23-2008 12:18 PM
An Open Letter to the Duke 3 jiml8 General 3 04-13-2007 11:36 AM
Open Letter From A Newbie Pleiades LinuxQuestions.org Member Intro 13 04-13-2004 01:26 AM

LinuxQuestions.org > Forums > LinuxQuestions.org > LQ Suggestions & Feedback

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 04:12 PM.

Main Menu
Advertisement
My LQ
Write for LQ
LinuxQuestions.org is looking for people interested in writing Editorials, Articles, Reviews, and more. If you'd like to contribute content, let us know.
Main Menu
Syndicate
RSS1  Latest Threads
RSS1  LQ News
Twitter: @linuxquestions
Open Source Consulting | Domain Registration