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Old 12-28-2015, 05:33 PM   #61
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I'm still interested in feedback on this suggestion.

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3. Remove the desktop environment window managers from the Window Manager of the Year
ie do not include Compiz KWin Marco Muffin Mutter since they are not stand alone wms or nobody actually uses them as such unlike all the other in the poll.
Pity nobody has followed up on this.

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Old 12-28-2015, 06:00 PM   #62
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Well if follow means feedback.

I also think the polls a bit skewed between older and newer gear.
Lumping older gear apps in with newer gear seems not fair.
Especially when votes are done by new users just learning.

So yeah,

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1. Split the Desktop Distribution of the Year into 2

a) if you have 1GB RAM or more
b) less than 1 GB RAM

2. New category: Best live distro (actually running live)

3. Remove the desktop environment window managers from the Window Manager of the Year
ie do not include Compiz KWin Marco Muffin Mutter since they are not stand alone wms or nobody actually uses them as such unlike all the other in the poll.
I can agree with that since I answer questions like this all the time on poor folks gear that
is not the latest and greatest.
 
Old 12-29-2015, 08:31 AM   #63
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A couple of things. First, the configuration management tools class isn't very clear what you're talking about. Vagrant's presence was what really explained it for me. Secondly, I agree that DE WMs could be removed from the list. It also seems Firefox, Iceweasel, and Seamonkey could be combined, being the same family of browsers (more like triplets). Other than that, it looks fine.
 
Old 12-29-2015, 09:52 AM   #64
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A couple of things. First, the configuration management tools class isn't very clear what you're talking about. Vagrant's presence was what really explained it for me.
Vagrant themselves and Wikipedia both describe the tool as an "Open Source configuration management tool", which is why it was included. As it actually calls out to chef/puppet/whatever, I will likely remove it.

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Secondly, I agree that DE WMs could be removed from the list.
Thanks for the feedback.

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It also seems Firefox, Iceweasel, and Seamonkey could be combined, being the same family of browsers (more like triplets). Other than that, it looks fine.
We plan to keep these as separate options at this time.

--jeremy
 
Old 12-29-2015, 11:50 AM   #65
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For clarification, here is what the current Window Manager category looks like:

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awesome
bspwm
Compiz
dwm
Enlightenment
Fluxbox
FVWM
herbstluftwm
i3
IceWM
JWM
KWin
Marco
MetaCity
Muffin
Mutter
Openbox
Ratpoison
Sawfish
spectrwm
StumpWM
twm
Window Maker
xfwm4
xmonad
Here's what it would look like with the DE Window Managers removed:

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awesome
bspwm
dwm
Enlightenment
Fluxbox
FVWM
herbstluftwm
i3
IceWM
JWM
Openbox
Ratpoison
Sawfish
spectrwm
StumpWM
twm
Window Maker
xmonad
Compiz, KWin, Marco, Muffin, Mutter and xfwm4 are the difference. While popular and quality projects, I'd agree that most people do not run these as standalone window managers and it could be interesting to see what the results would look like without them.

--jeremy
 
Old 12-29-2015, 12:02 PM   #66
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Just a Hall Monitor observation. Enlightenment sits on top of Open Box and is a Desktop Environment.

Now I feel all greasy and dirty. Ewwwww.
 
Old 12-29-2015, 12:34 PM   #67
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Just a Hall Monitor observation. Enlightenment sits on top of Open Box and is a Desktop Environment.
I've moved Enlightenment to the DE category.

--jeremy
 
Old 12-29-2015, 03:10 PM   #68
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Thanks, Jeremy. I guess if that's what Vagrant calls itself, then I can understand. I have no plans to vote in that category anyway, it was just confusing. As for WMs, xfwm4 would be a DE WM, I think. And as for the browsers, I only mentioned it because I really like Firefox, but use Iceweasel because of Debian, so I don't really know which one to choose. Hope I didn't sound like I was telling you to do anything, either.
 
Old 12-30-2015, 04:35 AM   #69
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I don't exactly know differences between Enlightment and Moksha. If you agree with Jeff Hoogland, add Moksha to desktop of the year category.

http://www.bodhilinux.com/2015/04/28...oksha-desktop/
 
Old 12-30-2015, 10:21 AM   #70
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Moksha has been added.

--jeremy
 
Old 12-30-2015, 11:24 AM   #71
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Just a Hall Monitor observation. Enlightenment sits on top of Open Box and is a Desktop Environment.

Now I feel all greasy and dirty. Ewwwww.
I don't know where you got that information from, but it is definitely wrong. Enlightenment is a window manager on its own and is not sitting on top of OpenBox. In fact, Enlightenment is 6 years older than Openbox.
 
Old 12-30-2015, 11:28 AM   #72
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OpenBox aside, they seem to class themselves as more of a DE than WM these days: https://www.enlightenment.org/about

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Old 12-30-2015, 05:48 PM   #73
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Thanks again for the feedback. The polls have been posted and voting is open.

http://www.linuxquestions.org/questi...ce-awards-117/

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