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1. If I had to switch from Slackware _back_ to anything else, I would be in pain...
2. If someone wrote that slackware IS a good starting/beginner distro, I would be in this shoes (=2 yr slack-experience) two years earlier: Slackware IS a GOOD BEGINNER DISTRO!!
3. If I had Slack on my previous PC I wouldn't change it for year a longer: I would save money!
4. I look and see my Laptop outperform P4 on XP anytime (it's a P3-coppermine on slackware 11.0) and I like the feeling :-)
5. If there wasn't Slackware someone had to make it anyway; for it would be missing in the gap between BSD and other GNU/LINUX-es...
6. If there where a BETTER distro I would be running it, that's for sure ...
7. Slackware suites me best.
BTW slax is beautyfull too :-)
Now it that does not matter anymore maybe this does:
1. If more linux-newbyes would start on slack, there would be many more excellent linux distros and the existing ones would be in better quality too.
2. Are there more users switching from Slackware or vice-versa? Why?
3. What matters more: performance or control?
if the answer equals to the latter then Slackware still *does* matter, if not, then why not use BSD or a OS from MS? A one that is more optimal or easy to install respectively?
My mad question to Pat was:
"Dear Patrick! Help me!!=)
I have a question. I 've been searching all the forums related to my problem but I hadn't find any proper solution. So.. when I exit from KDE I'm getting such messages - "couldn't open fontconfigs chosen font with Xft!!!". What does it mean? how to solve this issue??"
God answered me:
"Well, I'd guess it means what it says. :-)
As far as what the problem is, I don't know. I haven't heard of that error before.
Of course, some time later I've solved this problem.
What I want to say.. hmm.. Can't imagine I'm asking a question to Bill.. to Mandriva's team, to Solaris burning in Sun hell team...
I know what he was probably answering - "look deeper".
This is not only completely off the subject, but it's not even close to what he said in the ChangeLog. I am, however, not surprised. People pretty much just make up whatever they want to make up when it's convenient. I tend to remember it pretty vividly because it's pretty common jibber-jabber of the troll.
You sound like a troll yourself. You keep reading the changelog. I lived through the changes AND tried using Dropline Gnome for 6 months before returning back to stock slackware and KDE.
I will quote it for you - right from his ChangeLog:
if you read the changelog, then you would see that Dropline replaces som of the main packages with their own - and the only difference is they say it's "optimized" for x686.
Since you seem to want to promote Dropline Gnome, go ahead. But don't spread FUD about why Patrick dropped Gnome completely and also only slightly recommended Dropline because of the choices that Dropline made.
And before you (again) slight my comment - I was there and ran Dropline for well over 6 months before going back to stock slackware.
The Dropline team twisted your words. They labelled your points as "the jibber jabber of a troll" and painted you as a raving lunatic whose points can always be dismissed, no matter how well supported. Therefore, I can see why you would be infuriated enough to not let this go after 4 years. However, this point has largely been mooted. Zborgerd hasn't logged in since 2008. The latest version of Dropline GNOME is for Slackware 12.2, and none of the regulars in the Slackware forum either use Dropline GNOME or would recommend it to others.
For reference, this is a recent thread where the topic of Dropline came up. The universal consensus was: use GSB.
Of course they are ALPHA, and for slackware 13.1 which for much of the people running the latest is not interesting. But for who is still on 13.1 and will stay there because its not a priority to upgrade the system just because he needs to run the latest it can be an option.
Soon will be 2.32 for slackware 13.37 , and gnome 3 only when it will release 3.2.
Since I and just few other people are working on a big project like this, I do not think that its easy to create a good product, therefore it requires a lot of time, which right now i prefer to spend with my family rather than creating the latest available packages for people like you who do not know how much effort is needed to create something like this, and just doesn't know how to say thanks for people who are making something you do not install on your machine.
You are not the only person on this world , so other people should have the right and choice to install and judge by themselves.
I see that the release schedule didn't turn out as you'd expected. But you did get 2.32 for 13.1 out of alpha.
To be hones I have not did any announcement for 2.32 , but to tell you the truth I use it on few my machines and there are still some
issues with few programs, nothing that would make your computer crash, also there have been many updates to various packages, and
I would consider it as minimum as a RC stable. The thing is that we have always used RC to indicate when we had really all programs built
and working well, just to fix up the minimum things. In a possition where I'm at the moment I would not been able to call it RC, because
we still have not all the programs built (ex. LibreOffice) but yes, if you want to try it out, it is very usable and you can safely install
it. That is my opinion. So go ahead and report what is not working for you and I will try to fix it up.