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Old 09-25-2003, 12:02 AM   #1
Registered: Sep 2003
Location: Ontario, Canada
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Never again...

Since I've installed Linux I've been having trouble. I've installed things that other programs claimed weren't in my computer even though they were. Programs saying they're already installed when they aren't. Internet not working properly, sound not working, drivers not installing

I've been now using linux for the third day in a row (heh) and I've worked around most of my problems (still can't get java to work in mozilla).

Another problem I've been having is that gaim (my instant messenger) wasn't connecting to yahoo. So I decided to switch over to windows and try connecting with Trillian, which is a messenger i have in windows. It didn't work in Trillian either, so I decided to go to Trillian's website because they keep good tabs on these things. I received a message saying "you are being rediected probably without your knowlege; this is probably caused by a militious program; click here for details". Apparently I've been being redirected to sites that looked like the sites I was going to. I managed to get that fixed, and then internet explorer crashed trying to get to the site I was going to. Alright, no problem. Tried again and it worked fine. Yahoo has done something to their servers and sure enough using yahoo messenger works fine. Tried to close internet explorer and it crashed again (arrrrrg).

Well, with that over with I decided to get back to linux. So i clicked on the start menu, clicked on shut down, and then clicked on turn off... CAPP is not respond, oh god. took the computer a full two minutes to begin to restart. I now know why linux exists. And I can say this with complete honesty

Old 09-25-2003, 02:27 PM   #2
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I would give this a second thouht if I were you. First of all Linux is very different to the other thing, euh from Redmond, what was it's name?

I always advise people to buy their first distribution. Why, when its free on the net? Well, every distribution comes with manuals on paper. You should first do a lot of reading before you make the big step.

And do yourself a favor: go step by step. First the command line, yes you heard that right. And then a GUI. It takes a long way (it took me 4 years), but in the end you will have learned a lot and your PC will be yours, not things, what was his name again?


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Old 09-25-2003, 06:21 PM   #3
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I thought the general feeling of the post was that they were happy with Linux - and that the 'Never Again' referred to booting into Windows. I could be wrong, though.
Old 09-25-2003, 10:26 PM   #4
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I guess I just don't type things clear enough when I post. Ranting does not move well into words.

When I said never again, I was talking about windows. Whenever I run into problems with windows it bugs me because I haven't run into any real issues that haven't been just because of my own inexperience.

I'm happy with linux, and I like it much better then windows. I think I gave the impression (somehow) that I was saying I would never use linux again. I wouldn't post something like that here (someone would beat me up or something). I wouldn't complain about windows at actually, I probably would.

koen, I think you had the idea that I was giving up on linux, and I'm not. I'm embracing it actually. And I did download it for free but I learn better by playing with things and see how badly I can fuck it up (should see my relationships). Now, knowing what I just told you. If you can think of anything that will accellerate my learning experence, I would be more then happy to hear what you have to say
Old 09-26-2003, 08:12 AM   #5
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Your case is simple:

Install mozilla 1.4 or firebird (firebird work better with java) and j2re 1.4.2 (install from command line is recommended). link the plugin file of java 1.4.2 to mozilla/firebird. In redhat 9, it is:
cd /usr/local/mozilla/plugins
ln -s /usr/java/j2re1.4.2_01/plugin/i386/ns610-gcc32/

There are official yahoo messenger for linux. It is said that it work pretty well. In LC I read that gaim 0.69 is released but I can't see it in official homepage yet.

Last edited by codec; 09-26-2003 at 08:15 AM.
Old 09-26-2003, 11:02 AM   #6
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Hey, thanks for the advice. Unfortunatly I've already managed to setup yahoo messenger, gaim, mozilla and the java plugin. I've even got flash, all my video's will play properly, and my snes emulator setup so I can just double click on an snes rom and it will start. And I've managed to setup my microsoft sidewinder gamepad.

That's where I've gotten so far. I'm looking specifically anything I should remember when installing programs or running terminal commands. If there's a common thing you should do that will make things run easier, that's what I want to know.

Thanks so much codec


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