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Old 09-24-2004, 11:14 PM   #1
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Linux is just a Great Teacher

Hey folks. Here's a different thing for a change: a success story.

I have been using FC1 for quite a while now and even though I found it difficult at first, I have configured everything to work in Linux including my hardware.

My assessment: Linux beats Windows hands down.

I've learnt so many things about networking, webservers, ftp and all only using Linux.

My successes:


1. Autoconfigured sound with A7N8X-E on-board without problems.
2. USB digital camera (Powershot S50) works without problems.
3. Sound recording with Audacity works.
4. DSL connection configured with router with no problems.


1. Learnt a lot about webserver (apache) and DNS.
2. Learn Samba and got it to work.
3. Learnt to use a FTP client.
4. Compiled a driver for the on-board network gigabit ethernet (sk98lin.o).


1. Learnt how to configure and use mySQL.
2. Learnt how to connect to database using server-side scripting.
3. Learnt to create databases, tables etc.
4. Learnt how to connect to database using PHP.

And the list simply goes on.

Here's the clincher: I didn't use a single command-line tool for any of the above. I used the redhat-config graphical tools for the hardware and network setup and even samba and mysqlcc for configuring the MySQL database.

Even to start and stop services I used the graphical tools.

Who says you need to know command-line to use Linux?
Everything is there and ready and much easier than Windows.

Btw. I couldn't configure any webserver for Windows yet and I still can't get to work with mySQL in windows.

Linux has taught me so much more about things that I wouldn't know if I continue using Windows.
Old 09-25-2004, 02:17 AM   #2
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harishankar; A true linux convert! not putting w down but(there is that b) but how long being duped will the rest of pc users become knowledgable about the ease of use LINUX is! Harishankar well said and thank you in being so eloquant.
Old 09-25-2004, 02:43 AM   #3
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The only thing I needed the command line for was for
make install
and of course
make xconfig
make modules
make modules_install
Old 09-25-2004, 11:03 AM   #4
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What a great post. You illustrate beautifully how far Linux has come in the last few years toward becoming a great home desktop OS. The development of GUI's for virtually everything has allowed a lot of people to use Linux as their system of choice for so many purposes. Don't get me wrong, I still maintain that you should at the very least learn the basics of command-line operations and the locations of the config files for your software. That way if a GUI doesn't have all the functionality that the underlying software is capable of, you can still realize the software's full potential. I use GUI's for simple configurations, which is what the majority of computer users need, but there are some things the command line is still the way to go. Take a mail server configuration for example, a GUI like webmin can get you a running postfix server, but if you have a strange configuration to set up, it is still easier to configure at the command line with tools like VI or Emacs and the scripts Postfix ships with.
Old 09-25-2004, 01:10 PM   #5
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harishankar & pcghost; thank you both 4 those heads up post tips with information on howto.
Now that is what makes Linux better than other OSes.
users support only way to go & solve problems .
both of U are Linux-techys( exalted).
Old 09-25-2004, 08:44 PM   #6
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I think a lot of it has to do with propaganda. I am no techie as far as Linux is concerned, but in my opinion an OS like Windows is designed to keep the end-user dumb. Still there are many things in Windows that are unintuitive.

Take for example the webserver. In Linux, I got the Webserver (Apache) preinstalled and all I had to do was to configure it (just set the public HTML directory) and start it up in the 'services'. Linux distros like Fedora comes loaded with a lot of goodies. In Windows, I'll have to pay and buy third-party software or use IIS Server and MS Exchange to get web and mail server to work.

Again, take the hardware drivers bit. I recently changed my motherboard. In Windows it took me 15 reboots (yes, it's true) to reconfigure the whole hardware thing. It kept detecting my hardware every time I booted and frustrated the living daylights out of me. With Linux, there was no problem. Just one reboot and kudzu just auto-detected the removal of the old hardware and reconfigured the new hardware. And I didn't need four or five OEM CDs to install drivers either. Windows doesn't even come preinstalled with a good video driver (640*480 VGA mode? Ha Ha) on startup.

In short, to get Windows ready and setup to work I need minimum of 4 or 5 driver CDs for all my hardware and reboot ten or fifteen times (I use Windows 98, not XP). And the OS is barebones. With Linux, the distro CDs come with most of what I need. And even third-party drivers for things like the ATI radeon card are now available.

By the way, I forgot to mention that I got my video card Radeon 9600 pro also to work with Linux with 3d hardware acceleration using the ATI proprietary drivers. Another thumbs up for Linux.
Old 09-26-2004, 05:54 AM   #7
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Yeah i really learnt alot from linux , like these few days i setup apache , mysql , samba server and webmin makes it very easy to setup.

i learnt the active directory schema to be able to use it with openldap
i learnt how the kernel works by configuring and compiling the kernel
i learnt how my dsl works as it took me alot of time to configure it as its a usb pppoa modem
Others i cant remember right now

all of these things i would have never known them in windows


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