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Old 09-18-2007, 08:25 PM   #1
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Introduction for Sam O Rogers

Thirty years experience in the computer industry when a bit pusher loaded programs through the computer's front panel.

Currently running Ubuntu 6.06 on a Toshiba laptop, dual boot, re-partitioned for XP, Fat 32, Linux and Swap.

Goal is to find programs that will run on Windows, Linux and Mac OSX.

Current finds: Firefox,, Thunderbird, Adobe, Flash, Skype and Gimp. Printer driver works for Epson, Cannon Power shot works fine. Broadband over wireless encrypted works fine.

Have encountered the problem that Open source games work fine when installed on Windows, but having a dickens of a time getting them to install on Linux, and you would think things should be just the opposite.

Part of the problem is the age of some games are not consistent with the current releases of Linux distributions. Many of them need to be compiled for running on Linux, and then you get into dependency problems. There is also a tendency to not include source with some distributions.

Currently working on a install problem with daimonin, posted on the games thread.
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Old 12-31-2010, 09:55 AM   #3
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Thank you for the Welcome, if a bit late.

31 December 2010. Time for an update.

First off, my apologies. I've not tried anything with Daimonin for some time.

What is different between now, and my initial post is that in August of 2009, my beloved gave me an Acer Aspire One as an anniversary gift.

Our original router died earlier that year, and the new router used WPA and WPA2. This was ok with Windows XP on the Toshiba, but the Ubuntu 6.06 for some reason could not handle it, so I was stuck connecting a cable when going on line with Ubuntu on that machine.

So when I got the Acer, I first tried the Ubuntu 9.04 live CD on the Toshiba, and was pleased to find that it handled the WPA and WPA2 personal connection just fine.

Next, using that same Toshiba and the live CD, I used:

System-->Administration-->Create a USB startup disk

For the source, I used the Ubuntu 9.04 .iso file I had on the Toshiba, and pointed it to an empty usb sd drive.

Now on this Netbook, it came pre-installed with Windows XP. I have never booted the XP. However one of the things I did was partition the 160 gig drive into smallers segments: I kept one partition as the original NTFS partition with XP on it, but shrank it to 30 gig, freeing up 130 for Ubuntu. With 1 gig of ram, I followed the rule of using twice as much for a swap space. I don't know if this is still a valid rule, but it was allocated.

I have discovered that /usr is most used for installing programs. So of the 129 gig left, I allocated almost half to the / root directory, 63 gig.

On some Unix systems, I've encountered problems with /tmp filling up. When this happens, you are up a creek. In order to make sure that I do have a /tmp segment that is not full, I created a separate partition for it, 4 gig. I must admit that Ubuntu 9.04 is marvelous in clearing this out on reboot, and a very small portion of it is ever used. However, it is there if needed.

A word about Fat 32. When working between Windows, and Linux, it is very convenient to have a partition formatted as Fat 32. I allocated 30 gig for it, labeled /xfer.

With Ubuntu 9.04, you gain the ability to read and write to the NTFS file system, so the Fat 32 segment is not strictly needed. However, I am reluctant to give up the habit of having that system available. As you can see below, it is the fullest partition.

Finally, I allocated a home partition, 20 gig. I am using a fair portion of that. I create users for different purposes, ie a develop user, a generic user, used most of the time, and others as the fancy hits me. For example, if I want to see what the new firefox looks like, I create a new user, and install the firefox only for that user. This way, if I don't like something, I've not touched my normal setup.

Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Available Use% Mounted on
/dev/sda9 62973184 24085988 35688256 41% /
/dev/sda7 19228276 13973064 4278464 77% /home
/dev/sda8 4806904 140824 4421896 4% /tmp
/dev/sda5 29280176 27523616 1756560 95% /xfer

cat /etc/fstab

/, /home, and /tmp are all ext3 file systems.

Regarding commonly used programs, I listed Firefox,, Thunderbird, Adobe, Flash, Skype and Gimp as programs that were available on both Windows and Linux systems. This is still true, with some modifications.

I now use gmail most of the time, and while Thunderbird can be used to pull down email from gmail, I've not set it up on the netbook. I've gotten lazy, and just leave it out there.

I don't use Skype very much, but it does work, and on the netbook, it can access the built in camera, and can be used for face to face conversations if you like. The audio/mic does work better if you use a headset.

I am unhappy with the version of Gimp that was included with 9.04. The tool bar does not minimize, and so is in the way with the image you are working on.

Adobe Reader 9, I find is a very reliable product for reading .pdf files and accurately displaying the content. Evolution works, but I just like the feel of Adobe Reader better. So obviously I am not a purist. Secondly Flash 10 installed cleanly and runs well on Ubuntu 9.04. I have discovered that I can download it as a file, and install it with Archive Installer using the Ubuntu 9.04 live CD on the Toshiba, and can access any flash enabled web page. (Confession, my favorite is Farmville on Facebook.) It works on this netbook as well, but it can get bogged down. When updating the page, I can see CPU usage (both cpus) go to 100 percent. This does not happen on the Toshiba.

Well thats about as far as I've gotten with finding programs common to both the Windows world and the Linux world after all this time. So after three years, I guess that pretty much defines what I need to be able to do in both worlds. Not very extensive, or perhaps instead it defines what can be done with these few tools.

Well, I've tried to expand things a little bit. First off, the GTK environment is provided with Gimp for Windows. I've been trying to come up with a programming environment that can be used on multiple platforms. PYGTK looked like it might be possible. What I've done so far is gone through the tutorials for PYGTK on this Ubuntu 9.04 on the netbook. I've also been playing with Javascript. Now here is the rub. The stuff I've done with Firfox looks fine, but when I open it with IE, they look lousy.

Well, that's it for now, I'll update more later.
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Originally Posted by sam_o_rogers View Post
31 December 2010. Time for an update.
Not that there's anything wrong with your post, but maybe things like this are better suited to your blog?


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