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Old 10-06-2003, 01:13 AM   #1
limiter
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i hate people who do this but....


"hi i'm new here! blablablabla"
anyways, i've been playing with rh9 for about a month now and just relaized that instead of pulling my hair out trying to figure crap out i should get plugged into a community like this and get help that way.
so i am a college student in southern cali
i have rh9 on my old crap computer (a Celeron 333, 10gig HD, 64megs RAM) running kde is a pain in the arse but the command line a hassle for me because i like to see what i am doing. I am stilling trying to learn all the commands and programs for the command line though.
Anyways, i found this board while doing a google search on changing my text login to a graphical login so hopefully you people can help me with that.

-lates
 
Old 10-06-2003, 10:03 AM   #2
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That should be a relatively simple procedure... Once you know what you're looking for :-)

To change from text to graphical login you need to edit the file inittab

Go into /etc and edit the file called inittab. Below the description of the different runlevels there's a line where it says:

id:3:initdefault

Change your runlevel from 3 (text login) to 5 (graphical login) like this:

id:5:initdefault

Once you've completed the manouvre - save the file and reboot your machine.

Depending on your user permission you might have to change into root.

- You dont need to reboot in order to gain administrator powers simply type su <then press enter>
Then type your-root-password <then press enter>

Then complete the first mentioned steps!

Good luck

NOTICE! If you run out of space while using the graphical login it can end you in an endless loop!!!

Be sure to keep a boot disk handy or the installation media, you can then boot in rescue mode and clear out the clutter in runlevel 3 :-)
 
Old 10-06-2003, 12:42 PM   #3
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haha yeah... did that, the login that came up was the Xwindow system and it kept telling me about errors and crap, so i went back into the file to switch it back to run level 3 but as i was doing that i hit a return and a delete or something and saved it without noticing my mistake and so now that file is all jacked up. it was a fresh install yesterday so i might as well just re-install again today.

I am curious, what do most of you people here use your linux boxes for? i have been seriously considering totally switching over (makinng my main computer, a laptop, a linux machine).
 
Old 10-06-2003, 12:49 PM   #4
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http://www.start-linux.com/articles/article_162.php

this is an overview of the most command commandlines

bookmark it

heres a list of all the rpms you'll ever likely need

ftp://rpmfind.net/linux/freshrpms/redhat/9

bookmark that too

and incase we are all asleep when the need arises

the redhat 9 online manual
http://www.redhat.com/docs/manuals/l...started-guide/
 
Old 10-06-2003, 12:51 PM   #5
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There is one other thing to keep in mind...
Like the previous reply said, keep a bootdisk in handy in case something blows up in your face. If you have recently updated XFree86 or something regarding it; change the runlevel to 3 (I use 2 for text login but oh well,)again and make sure xfree is working. I've done the mistake of upgrading XFree86 and rebooted, not knowing that the update caused the runlevel to be re-written to 5 and thereby givin me a graphical login. This would have worked out if xfree hadn't messed up and given a kernel panic (dont ask me how...)
I had to boot another kernel so that nvidia would say a blunt NO to starting xfree86, change the runlevel, then boot my 2.4.22 kernel - again.

Sometimes its a big hassle and I can do nothing more than recommend you to keep the text login. That way you know you will never have to worry about something such as unstable (compared to everything else in bootup sequence,) as xfree86, will mess up your system.
 
Old 10-06-2003, 12:55 PM   #6
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Quote:
Originally posted by limiter
I am curious, what do most of you people here use your linux boxes for? I have been seriously considering totally switching over (making my main computer, a laptop, a linux machine).
Go for it. I dont have any boxes running anything but debian. Laptop, gateway, Main stationary, they all run debian. well... besides my dads box, it runs that horribly excuse for an OS.. whatever its called...

I do basically everything in my debian sys, as you do in your Windows sys. I game (Q3 mainly), irc, icq, music, videos, movies, dvd, cd-r/w burning etc... And I have a love for cool desktops so I fiddle with fluxbox all the damn time
 
Old 10-06-2003, 01:25 PM   #7
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i think i will still hold off on formatting my laptop though, first i want to know linux really well before i do it. i just wish i had a better computer to learn on. the 64 megs of ram are killing me when i run kde or gnome. i can't find ram for it anywhere though, it takes some kind of 71 pin ram or something old and crappy like that.
well, its reinstalling right now, hopefully i won't screw it up again. Then we'll see later today if i can master the setting up of samba.

right now my main use for the box will be irc, my laptop moves around too much to do anything interesting with irc...
lecture classes suck.... its time for me to go
 
Old 10-08-2003, 03:36 PM   #8
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limiter

Spend some money on ram and overclock that puppy and it will work fine.

My box:

ASUS P2B-B slot1 w/ celeron 366 OC'd to 412 (75Mhz FSB)
384 MB RAM (192MB still worked fine for me)
WD 40GB @ 7200rpm
SB Live
Gforce4 mx440 (8X AGP in a 2X slot - kind of a waste )
PCI NIC
No-name AT modem
AOpen burner (6X write speed, but free is free )
52X OEM CD-ROM

Riping an average CD to mp3 using ripit takes about 25-35 minutes on average. I don't do video - just digital photograpy - and I'm not a PC gamer.

I find it very satisfying to put together a solid machine for next to no $

I'm going to get a slot1 to socket 370 converter and get a 1gig celeron - big improvement for less that 40 bucks
 
Old 10-08-2003, 03:59 PM   #9
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Some other things to keep in mind when messing with X and run levels:

As root, you can use the "telinit" command to change run levels on the fly:

telinit 3 to switch to text login or
telinit 5 to switch to graphical login.

There is a delay of a few seconds before the change occurs.

With X running, you still have access to the virtual consoles, via the key sequence Ctrl-Alt-<n> where <n> is the console number (1-6). If X flips out, Ctrl-Alt-Bksp will kill the X server and return you a console IF you are in run level 3. If you are in run level 5, it will kill then restart the X server.

If you're using run level 3 and want to launch X, use the command "startx".

Greg
 
Old 10-08-2003, 04:06 PM   #10
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One other thing. Just because you machine appears to locked up doesn't mean it is. I've had the etnire user interface (video, mouse, keyboard) lock up but have still been able to ssh (or telnet) into the box from another machine to reboot and/or reconfigure. This is preferable to turning the box off.

As far as what I run Linux on, I run a NFS, SMB, DNS, NTP, Web, and Mail server on a P2/333 with 512MB of RAM and 120 MB of disk space. My workstation is a P4/2533 with 1024MB of DDR266 RAM, two 80GB ATA100 disks, and an ATI Radeon 9000 with 128MB of RAM. (I dual boot RH 9 and WinXP Home.) The workstation ROCKS!!!

Greg
 
Old 10-08-2003, 04:20 PM   #11
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the thing about spending money on the computer is that after shopping around a few local computer stores i found that i can build a new box for around $400
what i wanted to build was:
Asus A7N8X-VM (integrated video to save on buying a vid card) --- $130
Athelon XP2200 --- $70
120 Gig HD --- $130
256 RAM - $70

something like that...
The only thing i would upgrade on my current celeron 333 is the ram (64megs) but i can't seem to find ram for my mother board anywhere, its a SiS550

i got the GDM working on my rh7 now, thanks for your help on that.
 
  


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