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Old 05-16-2003, 01:58 PM   #1
flasher
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Hello, my name is...


Hi everybody,

Just a few words to say 'hi' and let you know I'm becoming a frequent visitor to LinuxQuestion.org. (Very useful site, BTW!)

About me: I'm from Quebec City, Canada. My mother tongue is French, and I'm working for a small delivery company.

Why do I wish to become a Linuxer (Linuxian?). Well, I guess it's for the same reasons as many of the participants to this site:

1) Tired of the "proprietary" philosophy
2) I want an OS that's adapted to my needs, and that doesn't try to force unsollicited services or options on me.
3) I like the way Linux is being developed.

And, on a more personal basis...

4) ... I'm cheap! ;-) (But I do realize there's a high-cost involved in learning Linux - right now I feel like I'm learning chinese, but that's OK, I'm willing to pay the price!)

Mario

Don't be confused by my nickname, I'm not a real "flasher": the word doesn't convey the same meaning around here.
 
Old 05-16-2003, 02:46 PM   #2
jfshadow
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Chinese...Ha! that's a good one!!
 
Old 05-17-2003, 02:13 PM   #3
bigjohn
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Yo flasher,

If your first language is French, then go for the mandrake.

Lots of french language support/assistance (not from me, I might be on the south coast of the UK, but my french only extends to basic phrases like "zwei bier bitte").

and language aside, LQ is (arguably) the best support/help/assist linux site i've yet come across.

Vive le difference, Senor!

regards

John
 
Old 05-17-2003, 04:03 PM   #4
david_ross
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Re: Hello, my name is...

Welcome!

Quote:
Originally posted by flasher
But I do realize there's a high-cost involved in learning Linux - right now I feel like I'm learning chinese, but that's OK, I'm willing to pay the price!
mmm - If my ISP was that expensive I'd start shopping around
 
Old 05-18-2003, 02:05 PM   #5
flasher
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Thanks everybody for your warm welcome. Hope some day I will be able to help others on this site.

OK, maybe I exaggerated a little about the cost involved in learning linux... ;-)

Mario

"Zwei bier bitte"? Chinese for "beer"?
 
Old 05-18-2003, 03:23 PM   #6
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Quote:
"Zwei bier bitte"? Chinese for "beer"?
Jawohl


John
 
Old 05-21-2003, 06:57 AM   #7
endroo
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dear flasher,

I guess you're Eminem's fan. Anyway... goood to be here posting messages. And we all here for a good cause. the main reason staying in this side of the clan (non-proprietary as in "proprietary vs non-propietary") is for the freedom of everything. u can do whatever u want with Linux.

Yeah... u want to learn Chinese? I can teach you a few words over the forum.

I'm a Malaysian Chinese here. Been tinkering in Linux for 4 years now.... though I'm still a bit lagged behind due to majority of the people here are M$ brainwashed. Attended the LinuxWorld held here back in Nov 2000 in Kuala Lumpur. That Samba guy's seminar was great. Just can't remember his name as I'm typing here now. That long bearded FreeBSD(who wrote a book) guy a macho man.

I currently using ZipSlack on this computer at my office (a big loss adjusting firm). my home PC is broken. don't have time to assemble a new one yet. just moved into a new house.


by the way, that " Zwei bier bitte " sounds more like German. Enlighten(ment) me if I'm wrong.
 
Old 05-21-2003, 08:58 AM   #8
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endroo,

I should really leave it, but as a Malay, you might not follow the slightly "lopsided" attitude of the english.

but personally, I like my humour "black". I also enjoy two parts of the english language that most non-native (and some native) english speakers haven't quite grasped........


irony

and

sarcasm.

someone once said, that sarcasm is the lowest form of wit. But I say it's bloody funny, especially if it's at someone elses expense. and though the germans arent exactly known for their sense of humour, they do have one excellent mother of a descriptive - Schardenfreude (least ways I think that's how it's spelled) pronounced shar-den-froy-der - it's the malicious enjoyment of someone else's misfortune i.e. you laugh when someone else falls down, etc

anyway the "zwei bier bitte" comment was the irony bit - don't forget, a lot of the non-english speaking nations accuse us of being arrogant, by always expecting everyone else to speak english - though this is really the fault of those "former colonial's" in the america's. Then there's the point that SOME french people will never forgive the english and american's for supplanting french, the former international language of diplomacy - but between us there are probably many more times the number of english speakers than french speakers (though I have always found spoken french a joy to listen too).


Anyway, "bore da" (welsh) for now chap - and keep up the charitable work amongst the blizzard of dollars (linux/M$)

regards

John
 
Old 05-22-2003, 09:57 AM   #9
flasher
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Hi Endroo,

I was just kidding with bigjohn, mixing many different languages together (English, French, German, Spanish) ... If you knew me, you wouldn't take me too seriously... ;-)

As an example, in my country, when the instructions for a product are very complicated, we have a saying that goes like this: "It's written in chinese.", meaning it's almost impossible to understand. That's how I felt about Linux at first...

Anyway, Linux is really a community, a common, unifying "language" for all those using it.

Mario
 
Old 05-23-2003, 04:53 AM   #10
endroo
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yeah...u my man. by the way, for us here... the same situation as your

" As an example, in my country, when the instructions for a product are very complicated, we have a saying that goes like this: "It's written in chinese.", meaning it's almost impossible to understand. "

we would say its " chicken intestine ". haha. no joke.

welcome to the bortherhood. u know Bigjohn personally?
 
Old 05-23-2003, 09:59 AM   #11
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What's " Zwei bier bitte " ?
Beer is "Pijiu"(pee-jew) in chinese
 
Old 05-23-2003, 02:02 PM   #12
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endroo,

Nah, I just spotted flashers post in the new "welcome/hello I am ......" forum that jeremy set up recently.

I noticed his comment about being a "Quebecois", and that he is a native french speaker (you will have noticed that english predominates), hence I suggested that he tried mandrake for a distro as their HQ is in Paris and there is considerable french language support as well as the large amount of english, (or for example, if you were a german speaker, then SuSE would probably be the best distro to try, produced/developed in Germany - hence the levels of german language support).

Maybe as a malay chinese, presuming that you speak mandarin/cantonese as well as malay and english you could maybe try the "chinese distro" I think it's called "Red Dragon" linux and is produced/developed in the PRC, though as to whether you can get it as a download , anyway, I would always try to suggest something in what would be as close as possible to someones "native" language, because I think it's always got to be easier if you just have to read instructions, rather than having to translate, then work out what is being said/meant (lets face it, we all use slang/colloquialism's in our native tongue, and this isn't usually meant as any disrespect to others, just habit!).

Have a look at distrowatch that should give you some idea whats available.

regards

John
 
Old 05-26-2003, 06:52 AM   #13
endroo
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bigjohn,

Yeah I agree with your idea. But sometimes if you're fluent in English and u have no difficulties to understand the jargons in general, why not use an English distro. Sometime I think its a bit tough to tinker around a translated distro ie. those with a country's native language.) as u can see many printed manuals come in English therefore its easier to get support.

u roughly get what I meant, don't u? unless in country such Japan (no particular racism intention to any Jap viewing this forum, TQ) where u can hardly(does not mean there's no one) find anyone who can speak basic English... they have thier kernel constrcted in Japanese.

ok... gotta go. have a nice day.
 
Old 06-03-2003, 03:29 PM   #14
tuxnottux
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Dear flasher et al,
"zwei bier bitte"--yes, German. Looks like "two beers, please". I used to be able to get by in French.

tux[is]nottux

Need to get my own intro in here (RH 7.2, 8.0)
 
Old 06-04-2003, 08:11 AM   #15
replys2me
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Well ... beer's ok,

...

but I'm a stout drinker, I really should be irish looking at how much of the stuff I drink

"
4) ... I'm cheap! ;-) (But I do realize there's a high-cost involved in learning Linux - right now I feel like I'm learning chinese, but that's OK, I'm willing to pay the price!)
"

This is partly why I got into it ... I hoard money like well ... gold dust and I'm willing to spend time on almost anything as long as it gives me a break from my academic studies. The other reason why I got into it is beacuse the only distro that I've ever *REALLY* played with is debian {sid} which has updates so often, no problem is a problem for long ... ok, I'll re-phrase that, no *SOFTWARE* problem is a problem for long, as I've recently smashed a hard disk, and I don't think much software'll be able to save it! {though I'm open to suggestions!}


r2m
 
  


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