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Old 11-12-2012, 03:07 PM   #1
M24
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Greetings


Hi everyone. I've been doing UNIX/Linux sys admin since 2000, though have been away from it for about the last 3 years. I'm sure I'll have some fun questions for everyone as I blow off the cobwebs and try to remember all the stuff I seem to have forgotten.

Thanks in advance.
 
Old 11-12-2012, 11:50 PM   #2
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so happy I'm not the only one joining today... but you're way up on me. I know... the name Linux, that's it. It has been an informative 2 weeks here.lol Welcome to us both. I'm sure I'll have the questions that piss people off. haha
 
Old 11-13-2012, 04:42 AM   #3
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Hi M24 and LuckymeVegas,
I am a new member here and also passionate to learn about UNIX/Linux world. I am just looking to start from the very first time with Linux and my ultimate destination or dream to become a UNIX/Linux system admin. Could anyone please give me a brief on how to start and where to start from? any suggestions would be greatly appriciated.
Thanks
Cheers!
 
Old 11-13-2012, 09:26 AM   #4
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Thanks for replying to my post. I would suggest to both of you that you get this book:

http://www.amazon.com/Practical-Guid...s=redhat+linux

This is one of THE best overall sys admin books I've ever read, well not all of it yet, but it is very complete, well written, reads well, and has excellent exercises at the end of each chapter. I picked it up a little over a year ago, and went through some of it, but now that I'm back in the swing of things at a Linux-oriented job, I've been more serious about it. I can say that it reads better than most O'Reilly books. There was certainly nothing like it when I started down this road back in 2000. IMO, if you get through that book, you'll have made some serious progress.
 
Old 11-13-2012, 11:57 AM   #5
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Yeay :)

LOL
M24 that book looks like a really great idea. I don't know the difference between the different Linux builds/platforms.
Think this would help me with Back Track 5 as well?
I know it's suppose to be some kind of black ops version, but so far it's the only Linux build that will work on my ailing lap top.

Since I can't go back to Windows for an unknown length time, and now wondering if I even 'want' to go back ...
I figure I need all the help I can get.

Welcome to you both hannanOO and M24
 
Old 11-13-2012, 12:25 PM   #6
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LOL
M24 that book looks like a really great idea. I don't know the difference between the different Linux builds/platforms.
Think this would help me with Back Track 5 as well?
I know it's suppose to be some kind of black ops version, but so far it's the only Linux build that will work on my ailing lap top.

Since I can't go back to Windows for an unknown length time, and now wondering if I even 'want' to go back ...
I figure I need all the help I can get.

Welcome to you both hannanOO and M24

I'm not familiar w/backtrack 5, but if you are planning on getting a job in the Linux world, I would focus on Redhat, CentOS, and ubuntu. That book will get you a good start any way you slice it.
 
Old 11-13-2012, 12:42 PM   #7
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I found the book here and am downloading it.. if you are sensitive close your eyes .... now.

http://thepiratebay.se/torrent/67681...inux_A__6th_Ed.

ok open them... there are a couple others. but I get a LOT of great info on youtube, google, and here. I just get really annoyed with the people who have an attitude because they know so much. I have already seen the "Then you should not be useing Back Track" replay.
Thank goodness it was not directed at me. lol
I'm not really looking to get a job in Linux, though I would not mind.. I need a job real bad. I am a nanny by day and a Facebook stalker and Second Life builder and cafepress designer by night. lol Just what I need... a 'Feroda / Red Hat' to go with all the other 'hats'. rofl Thanks so much. do you know how we add people to our personal groups? I'd love to add you both if you don't mind friending a pirate.
 
Old 11-14-2012, 09:28 AM   #8
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I found the book here and am downloading it.. if you are sensitive close your eyes .... now.

http://thepiratebay.se/torrent/67681...inux_A__6th_Ed.

ok open them... there are a couple others. but I get a LOT of great info on youtube, google, and here. I just get really annoyed with the people who have an attitude because they know so much. I have already seen the "Then you should not be useing Back Track" replay.
Thank goodness it was not directed at me. lol
I'm not really looking to get a job in Linux, though I would not mind.. I need a job real bad. I am a nanny by day and a Facebook stalker and Second Life builder and cafepress designer by night. lol Just what I need... a 'Feroda / Red Hat' to go with all the other 'hats'. rofl Thanks so much. do you know how we add people to our personal groups? I'd love to add you both if you don't mind friending a pirate.

I don't mind friending a "pirate," however, having had some of my work ripped off online, I can see both sides of it. Not sure how to "friend" someone on this forum and I don't have time to look into it.

As for Linux, it seems to me that Ubuntu is the way to go for desktops and CentOS/RH is the way for servers. If you want a job, learn the latter and learn the BASH shell, which I am RE-learning at a slow pace, because of many reasons, including having a baby to deal with when I get home from work.

 
Old 11-14-2012, 09:32 AM   #9
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Hello M24 and LuckyMeVegas
Thanks heaps both of you. I would go through with the book which one recommended by M24 and one more thing is I also dont understand the differences between different versions of Linux such as Linux Fedora and Linux Ubuntu. I am looking to prepare myself in the next couple of years to get a job in the UNIX/Linux world, so what versions should i really start up with and which one is much easier to start with? Thanks again
Cheers Mate!
 
Old 11-14-2012, 09:42 AM   #10
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Hello M24 and LuckyMeVegas
Thanks heaps both of you. I would go through with the book which one recommended by M24 and one more thing is I also dont understand the differences between different versions of Linux such as Linux Fedora and Linux Ubuntu. I am looking to prepare myself in the next couple of years to get a job in the UNIX/Linux world, so what versions should i really start up with and which one is much easier to start with? Thanks again
Cheers Mate!
Make google.com your home page and start searching on every question you have, i.e., "ubuntu vs. fedora" or, "what is the difference between..." and you'll learn lots quickly. Ubuntu is Debian based and Redhat/Fedora/CentOS is, I suppose different in the package manager "rpm," but ultimately the kernels handle things slightly differently, IIRC. I could be wrong on that. I would suggest not worrying about which is easier, get that book, it comes w/an install disc, install it and run through the book. I cut my teeth in the RH world, so Ubuntu/Debian aren't my thing, though I have nothing against them.

Time for you to get cracking friend.

Last edited by M24; 11-14-2012 at 09:43 AM.
 
Old 11-14-2012, 09:56 AM   #11
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Make google.com your home page and start searching on every question you have, i.e., "ubuntu vs. fedora" or, "what is the difference between..." and you'll learn lots quickly. Ubuntu is Debian based and Redhat/Fedora/CentOS is, I suppose different in the package manager "rpm," but ultimately the kernels handle things slightly differently, IIRC. I could be wrong on that. I would suggest not worrying about which is easier, get that book, it comes w/an install disc, install it and run through the book. I cut my teeth in the RH world, so Ubuntu/Debian aren't my thing, though I have nothing against them.

Time for you to get cracking friend.
Thanks a lot again and I am trying to follow your instructions dear M24. I am totally new to this world, so i might sound like so silly. please dont get bothered if I sound so.
Cheers!
 
Old 11-15-2012, 10:34 PM   #12
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... having had some of my work ripped off online, I can see both sides of it.

ouchies sorry... and yea I hear you. I design and it's hard to keep things from getting 'borrowed'. But it sucks when you know they are making money with 'your' stuff... :/ I don't ever sell anything I DL.. I guess I justify it by thinking of it as borrowing a book or CD from a friend.. So is a computer crash like a mass return of books and CD? lol

Gonna look into that though. thanks both of you..
 
  


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