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06-21-2004, 11:17 PM
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suse 9.1, wpc11 v.4, & my dreams of leaving windows behind me
hey all:
i'm fed up with windows, and i would like to start my computer life over with linux. i went out today and bought suse 9.1 personal edition (because i found suse to be the most user friendly for people converting from windows). anyway, i've got a dell inspiron 5000, suse 9.1, and the wpc11 v.4 wireless card. that's where my problems begin, the wpc11 vers 4 wireless card. i have been searching for a couple of days now about how to install this card w/ suse 9.1 and i have come up with a few sources of information, but my only problem is that i'm very new to linux. so even when i see instructions about downloading a file and then compiling and running whatever programs i get confused, so much so it almost makes me want to give up. i would like to know if there is anyone out there that can explain to me (a win-dummy) how to get the "kernel" for my wpc11 v.4 card working in like an in-depth step by step process. is there even a kernel that works with this card & suse 9.1?
any help at all would be great, thanks.
keith s.
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06-22-2004, 12:36 AM
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update of situation
hay again:
i tried to do the HOW TO by coindood found here:
http://www.linuxquestions.org/questi...icle&artid=162
anyway, i get through step 1, where it says to edit wlanup. (i'm pretty sure i've done everything right thus far) so far i've extracted the sip to my desktop, completed step 1, and now here's where trouble begins...
since yes i am using a router i try to goto: "/etc/resolv.conf file" but it's not there. Konqueror comes up with an error message saying that the file or folder does not exist. just trying to see if i could get to the next step i try to look for "/etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-wlan0" and it seems that that isn't there either. once again all help is greatly appreciated, and welcome.
thanks in advance,
keith s.
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06-22-2004, 02:01 AM
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LQ Newbie
Registered: Sep 2003
Location: Belgrade
Distribution: SUSE 9.0
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this drivers for rtl8180 work with kernel 2.4.20 not with 2.6.4
you should install ndiswrapper and use winxp drivers that should work
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06-22-2004, 09:15 AM
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like i said, i am very new to linux. could you please explain to me how i can go about doing this?
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06-22-2004, 10:46 AM
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Location: Orange County, CA
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Hi,
I realize that you're new to linux. I am too. I've been doing this thing for about 6 months now and I still feel very new. I'm getting the hang of it though.
I have an HP laptop with WinXP and Suse9.1 Personal which I downloaded free from SuSE's ftp.
For your wireless card problem, what you should do is find out what brand of wireless card you have. You said WPC11 so I'm guessing its a Linksys. Is it built into your comp or is it a separate wireless card?
Basically what you should do is check out www.linuxant.com I use their .rpm for Suse9.1 and I'm using my laptop wirelessly w/ WPA encryption now. I've even got Wine working which lets me run IE6, mIRC, and more.
As far as setting up SuSe and configuring, I bought Partition Magic T(a Symantec product). This lets me partition my harddrive (because I have a laptop). I have an 80g setup as 50g for XP, 50mb for boot, 1000mb for swap, I used 10g for fat32, and the rest is Linux ext2. I used the fat32 to transfer stuff between XP and Suse9.1 and I still do. If you decide to go with Linuxant, you'll need to copy a copy windows files (a .inf and .sys file) for the drivers for your wireless card. Basically Linuxant .rpm is a program to translate windows drivers to linux drivers. It gives you all the linux functions you'll need to do with your wireless card (with the exception of WPA -- which is a completely more detailed subject).
When I installed SuSe, It defaults most things for you in Personal edition, what you should do is change the Software configuration so that you have C/C++ compliers and make commands. This lets you compile programs to run (like the WPA I talked about above).
The reason personal doesnt default it is to keep it simple in the beginning but I find that I needed that stuff in the beginning so I went head first.
The best place to start learning your Suse is the Control Panel. It gives you many options.
In case you're not sure about the whole compile and rpm and .tgz and all that jazz here's the simple story.
RPM's, tqz's, bz2, and all the other extentions are simply .zip files. The RPM is a zip format from Redhat that almost all linux systems use now. I find RPM's are the easiest because most installations consist of going to terminal and type "rpm -i <file .rpm>" Then u're done, its installed. Depending on the program, it may or may not install it to your Suse menu. The .tgz format is like a zip too except you untar it where you want it to reside. The rpm's mostly go default. I would stick w/ RPMs in the beginning and then for tgz's read the installation instructions to see how you should untar it.
Let me know if you need any more help!
Hope this helps!
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06-22-2004, 03:59 PM
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Sorry for not replying (vacation).
Just as Zoran says, use the ndiswrapper. The howto is shown in my signature. Using Linuxant's DriverLoader is fine, but you can save yourself the money and just go the ndiswrapper way (or go get a prism-based card, which are linux-compatible out of the box).
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06-23-2004, 01:16 AM
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Problems w/ Coindood's method
hey coindood:
i tried following the instructions in your sig, but i ran into a few problems. First I would like to reitterate that I'm using Suse 9.1 Personal. I installed ndiswrapper via. YaST instead of downloading the file you suggest in your sig. (I have that file installed but don't know how to install it.) Anyway, the first problem that I run into is that instead of the ndiswrapper files being in: /home/user_name/ndiswrapper/. Instead my files are found in: /usr/sahre/doc/packages/ndiswrapper , I don't know if this is much of a problem, but I continued anyway and unzipped the Windows drivers into that folder. I try to follow along with your directions but when i type the Konsole tells me "command not found". I figured I'd try to just type install, but it says there are too few arguments.
Could you please help me out and tell me what's going on?
Thanks,
Keith S.
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06-23-2004, 01:32 AM
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LQ Newbie
Registered: Sep 2003
Location: Belgrade
Distribution: SUSE 9.0
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if you installed ndiswrapper via rpm you only need to write at the console
ndiswrapper -i </path>
After installing you can run
ndiswrapper -l
to see the status of your installed drivers. If you have installed the correct
driver you should see something like this:
Installed ndis drivers:
bcmwl5 present
Where "present" means that you have a PCI-device present that can be used with the
driver bcmwl5
To load the module type
modprobe ndiswrapper
If you get no error the driver should now be loaded and active. You can verify
this by checking system log (produced by 'dmesg')
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06-23-2004, 01:33 AM
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Registered: Sep 2003
Location: Belgrade
Distribution: SUSE 9.0
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sorry that is
ndiswrapper -i </path/to/inffile.inf>
the path "/usr/share/docs/packages/" is for Documantations (readme, help etc.)
Last edited by zoran; 06-23-2004 at 01:43 AM.
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06-23-2004, 09:34 AM
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After searching and searching I've found something that was a little more helpful for SuSE 9.1. It was in the SuSE Support Database:
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Install the package ndiswrapper via YaST2.
Download the manufacturer driver for your card. The above-mentioned web page supported_chipsets.html includes some direct links to manufacturer home pages.
We recommend you the use of archives (.zip,.tar.gz), since they can be unpacked in Linux.
The following lines describe the procedure for the network card RTL8180L.
Go to the web page of the manufacturer and save the relevant ZIP archive in the directory /tmp.
Open a text console e.g. by clicking on the icon representing a monitor with a shell in the tool bar on the lower screen border in KDE. Enter the following command in the displayed window:
su -
Enter root's password when prompted to do so. Note that no output is displayed on the screen when typing the password.
Unpack the file with the command:
unzip -d driver /tmp/winxp-8180\(168\).zip
Note:
The back slashes (\) in the file name must be entered manually in order to mask the brackets. As an alternative, you can use the extension with TAB so that the file name is automatically completed.
A new subdirectory (/tmp/driver) is created when unpacking the file. This subdirectory contains the file .INF required by Ndiswrapper.
Proceed to install the driver by entering the path to the file INF (ndiswrapper -i /PATH_TO_FILE/NET8180.INF). In this example:
ndiswrapper -i /tmp/driver/NET8180.INF
The output displayed should be similar to:
Installing net8180
Check if the driver has been properly installed with the command:
ndiswrapper -l
If this is the case, the following output will be displayed:
Installed ndis drivers:
net8180
Load the module with the command:
modprobe ndiswrapper
If the command does not return any error messages, the driver has been successfully loaded. The output of the command dmesg displays additional information:
ndiswrapper version 0.6+CVS loaded
ndiswrapper adding rtl8180.sys
Once the driver is loaded, the WLAN interface must be configured.
For this purpose, proceed as described in the article http://portal.suse.com/sdb/en/2002/11/wavelan.html
If everything works, you can enter the following command to load the module when the system starts:
ndiswrapper -m
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Hope this helps anyone else.
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06-23-2004, 07:14 PM
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Status Update
Ok, so according to ndiswrapper I've got the rtl8180 drivers installed correctly. And accoring to YaST, I've got an Linksys Ethernet Controller Configured with DHCP, and a Wireless Network Card Configured with DHCP (I add this one).
Is there anything else I have to setup before being able to connect to my network? The Wireless Network Card is Configured to my ESSID, but I can't find where to do that with the Linksys one, any ideas? Is there a step I'm missing?
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06-24-2004, 01:43 AM
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LQ Newbie
Registered: Sep 2003
Location: Belgrade
Distribution: SUSE 9.0
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You have to write
iwconfig wlan0 essid "your essid here"
iwconfig wlan0 channel your_channel_here
ifconfig wlan0 your_ip netmask your_netmask
than you should be able to connect to your network
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07-22-2004, 07:06 PM
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so here's where i'm at:
linux:~ # ndiswrapper -l
Installed ndis drivers:
net8180
linux:~ # modprobe ndiswrapper
linux:~ # [it says nothing on this line although i've read it's suppoed to say: ndiswrapper version 0.6+CVS loaded then ndiswrapper adding rtl8180.sys]
linux:~ # iwconfig wlan0 mode Managed
Error for wireless request "Set Mode" (8B06) :
SET failed on device wlan0 ; No such device.
At the end of this post ( http://www.linuxquestions.org/questi...345#post877345 ) coindood states
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Note: You may need to create an ifcfg-wlan0 and resolv.conf file for this to work (correct me if I'm wrong!). I had mine laying around after my install with the Realtek drivers.
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I have these in the rtl8180 driver folder but don't know where to put this...
Last edited by zhuangshi; 07-22-2004 at 07:10 PM.
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