[SOLVED] Virtualization Load?

business_kid · 12-28-2020, 01:15 PM

I wonder if someone could throw an eye on this and advise me.

My box has

i3-3110m - 2.4Ghz twin core, your typical sucky 2013 laptop cpu.
6GB ram
250G SSD
Intel HD 4000 (Ivy Bridge) GPU
Intel Series 7 chipset.

When it was still free, I downloaded Windows 10 64bit and installed that in Virtualbox. But I can't give it more than 50% of the assets, i.e. 1 core & 3G of ram, and windows isn't happy with that. Top shows

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 6611 dec       20   0 6829596   3.5g   3.2g S 125.0  61.9   2:14.35 VirtualBoxVM                                                               
 6550 dec       20   0 1311880 139548  77884 S   6.2   2.3   0:02.19 VirtualBox                                                                 
    1 root      20   0    2464   1484   1368 S   0.0   0.0   0:00.75 init

and windows is nearly frozen (with NO apps open). I wanted to try zoom on W10, but I wouldn't trust the speed. htop shows 2 processes @ ≥100% and the free shows 4.5G out of 6G used. In case it was my windows version, I downloaded another, but it's no better.

So what is it lacking? CPU cores? More Ram? Disk space(It has about 50G)?
Mint, btw is slower in a VM but not drastically, and linux distros run @ 1G-1.5G usually on XFCE. I don't use kde or gnome - they strangle it also.

frankbell · 12-28-2020, 07:26 PM

You might find this article enlightening: https://winaero.com/the-real-system-...or-windows-10/

It argues that the stated Windows 10 minimum requirements are somewhat--er--understated and that 4 GB RAM would be a more reasonable figure.

Aeterna · 12-28-2020, 08:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by business_kid

I wonder if someone could throw an eye on this and advise me.

My box has

i3-3110m - 2.4Ghz twin core, your typical sucky 2013 laptop cpu.
6GB ram
250G SSD
Intel HD 4000 (Ivy Bridge) GPU
Intel Series 7 chipset.

When it was still free, I downloaded Windows 10 64bit and installed that in Virtualbox. But I can't give it more than 50% of the assets, i.e. 1 core & 3G of ram, and windows isn't happy with that. Top shows

Code:

 6611 dec       20   0 6829596   3.5g   3.2g S 125.0  61.9   2:14.35 VirtualBoxVM                                                               
 6550 dec       20   0 1311880 139548  77884 S   6.2   2.3   0:02.19 VirtualBox                                                                 
    1 root      20   0    2464   1484   1368 S   0.0   0.0   0:00.75 init

and windows is nearly frozen (with NO apps open). I wanted to try zoom on W10, but I wouldn't trust the speed. htop shows 2 processes @ ≥100% and the free shows 4.5G out of 6G used. In case it was my windows version, I downloaded another, but it's no better.

So what is it lacking? CPU cores? More Ram? Disk space(It has about 50G)?
Mint, btw is slower in a VM but not drastically, and linux distros run @ 1G-1.5G usually on XFCE. I don't use kde or gnome - they strangle it also.

system i7-4710MQ/32GB RAM/2x1TB SSD
I have Windows 8.1 in VM with 16.5GB RAM limit, 4xCPU, Host I/O cache

I can limit RAM accessible by windows, but then windows is slow (running DxO photo editor, ff, office, work related software). With the current setup I never had any issues with windows being slow.
I think that less RAM, slower system, more prone to crash/freeze.

I doubt that at 6GB you will be able to run windows10 successfully although if you have windows7, then after optimizations you will be able to run windows with some apps.

business_kid · 12-29-2020, 04:45 AM

Thanks.

I was coming to that conclusion myself. I just wanted to hear from someone who had it going.

business_kid · 01-18-2021, 08:46 AM

Now, Windows 7 is in, and Windows 10 is going out. Why waste cpu cycles?

I know it's EOL - and I know why: IT WORKS!!

CPU load is low, it's reserving it's memory all right, but speed is normal. It's not talking to my usb yet,but 'll get there in the end. I haven't even installed the guest additions.

Aeterna · 01-18-2021, 05:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by business_kid

Now, Windows 7 is in, and Windows 10 is going out. Why waste cpu cycles?

I know it's EOL - and I know why: IT WORKS!!

CPU load is low, it's reserving it's memory all right, but speed is normal. It's not talking to my usb yet,but 'll get there in the end. I haven't even installed the guest additions.

If you know how to, edit windows registry and you can really make it light and as secure as possible. Really fast. I had Windows 7 with no initial connections at boot, system dir (/) set as read-only for users (this will require tweaking registry per app). Let it connect over vpn only (you can force it so windows will connect only over vpn) and you are set for long time.
I never had single virus/malware issue with Windows7. I had to switch to Windows 8.1 because some picture editing software had issues with win7. However even with windows running in VM I would never install win10.

business_kid · 01-19-2021, 06:29 AM

I've farted about with windows registries, but am by no means competent. I just need it to sit there and run one library thing. But it's not love at first sight. I'm having a battle getting the guest additions installed. The network is crazy. microsoft.com &msn.com work, but nothing else resolves (IE8 loaded). If I search on the approved search engine, bing.com then nothing comes up - not even bing.

After fiddling with it's Network stuff, I got bing, but not it's search results. I'm not hugely worried. I just want it to Use and update one library program from one website, and I can probably fluke that with a little effort. I'm new to windows 7. I heard good about it, but went Vista --> 8.0 with installs enforced by purchases. I haven't usb either. I really should go at it, I just care little.