Yeah, it's kind of like anything else, in order to use it you need to learn how . The major difference between the two systems being pricing and marketing schemes. Linux has some powerful attributes and Windows is relatively easy to understand. Personally I think that they ought to COMBINE efforts---give the world and humanity a real boost concerning computer useage and information distribution. This current upside down, inside out,world of inverted values in which we all reside and struggle can only get changed for the better through open, freely availible exchanges of information. THe primary reason that the world has been in the strangleholds of the social elites from political/religious circles has been the dissemination of distorted 'facts' and other misrepresentations of ethics and prinicples to keep the masses confused and under control. Before the current ever expanding almost instantneous global communication systems known as the world wide web and internet was a reality,, these social elites were able to obsfucate VALID information that lead to real knowledge from their respective societies at large and as a result there exists the craziness in the world as seen today. This is all about to change. In fact it IS changing. THese boards help to create the change and both Linux and Windows help in the creations. This is a GOOD thing and I tend to agree with not bad mouthing good things. Abusive business practices , however, are not good things and it would be a real treat if all the software people got on the same page.
It is very warm in Phoenix today, I hope you scribers in Tucson are enjoying it as well.

I agree with the last two posts. Alot of computer users that find linux seem to thank there $H|T dont stink. But then theres the other kind that just wants to learn.
I also find alot of attitude with some linux users, dont get me wrong if you know your stuff, you know your stuff, but if you dont, well dont act like you do and dont thank theres nothing new to learn. (stinky butt)
I've been using and learning linux sense Aug. of last year and I find the more I learn the less I really know aint that something. But all in all I find that it helps to learn with another human other than your split personality and LUG's like this and others make life easer and learning linux more of a understanding process than a learning process.

I'm with you chemichael, The more I learn, the less I get to brag about :-)

Unfortunatly, people are people and it does not matter if someone uses OSS or not, they can still be a prick.

I must say though, I have met many more Windows dicks then Linux.

but that's just me :-)

Hey Plantzon, Your in Phoenix? SO AM I ;-) LOL It says on your location that you are in Montana, where were you in Montana? My half-brother and sister grew up there, in Laural, that is.

Hope all is well.

Just saw this post and thought I'd come by and say HI. Been using this forum less do to great support at my current OS's forum (http://www.ubuntuforums.org/), but I come back from time to time. Glad to see I'm not the only linux user in Tucson.

On a side note: when Ubuntu says they will mail you the OS, on CD, free of charge they are not kidding. Ordered the largest order they let you and have been handing them out to people I know. Not only do you get the install disc they give you the LiveCD with it as a pack. It is like a cult and they want you to "convert" others. Anyone else try it yet? I caused me to drop FC4 due to ease of use. If anyone interested let me know and I'll give you the Install/LiveCD set. I got a bunch of the x86 (and a few each of the x86_64 and PPC versions). BEST DISTRO OS EVER. That is just my opinion. But I'm no pro, off and on user for about 3 years.

PS...

The one thing I have noticed about many linux fans is their hatred of Microsoft. Each OS has it's own niche. For most tasks I use linux (web, email, etc.) but there are some things linux can't do as well. As a gamer I could rank about linux but I don't, it does what I want of it. There are pros and cons for each OS so don't hate. All I see on forums is the weaknesses of windows and no mention of the weaknesses of linux. But they can happily work together. Next time anyone plays a windows game, just look at how many servers are linux. Or next time you watch a streaming video in linux remember you installed the w32 codecs. STOP THE HATE

Just my opinions go ahead and attack me, I don't care.....

Crispy_420: I did the same as you, the funny thing is, I ordered the disks and because they take a while to get to you, I forgot about them:-)

I got my order about a month ago, I did as you did and handed them out to friends and stuff. I did keep one for me though:-)

We're not haters here, we love all things Linux ;-)

Like you, I do miss being able to play my games but I have consoles for that, I am not missing M$ AT ALL!!

I love Linux for what it can do, and what it will be able to do as well.

Come back a little more often, we don't care if you use Ubuntu.

I personally like Kubuntu, but I am a KDE fan. I am not a Gnome hater though, I just prefer KDE, that's all.

Plus its easy as all get out to make Ubuntu into a Kubuntu distro anyway.

I use KDE too. I try out all the desktops.
As far as console games, never a big fan. My personal favorite is Gran Tourismo (spelling?). I skipped on the xbox 360 waiting for next play station. But then it's back to windows for the games I love.

And what's wrong with Ubuntu. Some things are just easier to do on this distro. I can install and have it running in an afternoon with minor tweaking. My other experiences with other distros was not quite the same. I tried Fedora, Suse, etc. and they were good but just not for me. I have swappable drives so I fell free to test them again. But if it wasn't for Ubuntu I think I would be using FC4 as I did before Ubuntu v5.04.

But right now I'm building a low end system with old parts. You guys got any suggestions for an distro. Ultimately I want it to be a music player and basic internet access. I'm still in the works of building the computer and need a few more parts. I just need to round up a soundcard, optical drive, case and power supply. What I have now is an old Athlon(900MHz?), 256MB DDR, 20GB hard drive, Intel network card, and Matrox video card. All I got for free. I could buy those parts but I set myself a $50 budget. Any sources here in Tucson to get cheap parts? Used, I don't care.

But like I said earlier, good to be other people in Tucson who won't give me the stink eye when I same linux.

LATER

Yo wasup all and crispy 420 HELLO good to see you found your way over.
I've tried Ubuntu and Kubuntu but I didnt seem to like it to much im not sure why but I only had it installed for about a week so I guess mabe I didnt give it much of a chance.

Well I do agree. I dont hate Micro$loth but I do hate the fact that they try to monopolize on any and every piece of software you can thank of, and thank that it's the best there is.
But as you said "there are some things linux can't do as well" it could'nt have been said better, but it's just a matter of time linux is growing very fast and there's more and more new users every day.
Oh and I ordered a Distro on CD once ( Mandrake 2005 LE 10.2 ) I got it in like 3 days and I basicly installed it strait from my mail box and thought it was the $H|T. I dont even use it now but it was a good learning experience, and I dont hate on any Distro , GUI or any other OS I just choose not to use them. Y because I dont have to it's that simple
As far as good cheep computer parts go I sometimes use www.tigerdirect.com or call every number in the phone book I can find tell I run across the best deal. Good luck with that.

Well I'm now one step closer to that cheap computer. Got a sound card today. It is old and I have no idea who makes it but it was free. Can't complain about that. So with my remaining budget of $45 I have to get a case, power supply and optical drive. I think it can be done if I'm patient. Try to avoid online purchases due to shipping, especially on a case. So I'm keep looking. Any ideas on a simple distro for this low end box? Looked at Vector Linux but can't figure out the install, maybe I just didn't read it right or had a bad burn because it didn't boot from CD. I'll look again. But it just might be another Ubuntu install but I won't limit my options yet.

Why did you give up on Ubuntu so soon? Once you setup the Synaptic sources file with new repositories it is almost always a one click install of software as is updating. I never have to look for dependencies as it does it for me. I'll admit not having a root account can be annoying at times but I've learned to deal. But to each his own. I tried the new Suse 10 Open Source and I erased it the same day. I used Redhat, then FC, for about a year. Liked it but then discover the Ubuntu LiveCD on distrowatch so much I did the install and not looked back.

From what I read somewhere else Ubuntu(Linux Format magazine maybe) is going for that whole Apple idea of: "It just works". But it won't stop me from testing others.

Try Puppy Linux, or Damn Small Linux, or Feather Linux.

Puppy is only 60mb, DSL is under 50mb, and Feather is under 120mb in size.

I have used puppy and DSL and they made my P-III 450mhz 512mb-RAM compy, SO FAST IT WAS AT LEAST THREE TIMES AS FAST AS MY 1.4G AMD compy.

I'm not kidding, its so fast running DSL its not even funny. :-)

Space for my is not too much of an issue. It will be on the drive I use to run as my "test" install drive of linux. It is 20GB 5400rpm drive. I had many full installs on it in the past. The one thing I'm concerned with is system requirements. (900MHz Athlon + 256DDR)

For a low system requirement distro I came across Kate OS.

Anyone ever try this? Will test tonight on my virtual machine if I get time.

I did look at DSL and it may be what I go with after a little more research. And it has me wanting to try another project. It looks you can install it on a flash/portable drive and use an emulator to run it on other systems without an install. Sounds like a portable OS. Form what it sounds like, it should across many platforms (linux, Windows, MacOS, etc.) and will be better than portable firefox.

Hi all, I got a big problem, does anyone know what I did?

As of yesterday I can no longer double click on any icons, I have to right-click to get them to open.

This is the error message I get,

"KDEInt could not launch..(program)..malformed URL"

I have done several searches on LQ but did not find what I needed.

I know I did something, I just do not know what :-)

I posted this as a question in the SuSE forum.

Scott

Ha wasup it's been awhile.
What icons are you trying to click on?
Are they links to a program or a file? Was that program for file moved to a new location?
Did you ckeck in <Control Conter/Peripherals/Mouse and make sure that the mouse is set to open files on double click and not Single click>?(Dumb question sorry)
Oh here is a kick A$$ Extensions for Firefox https://addons.mozilla.org/extension...cation=firefox

Hi,

Chemichael: Thanks for the advice, I checked that and a ton of other stuff too. I have been having other little problems as well so I backed up all my stuff and did a re-install. All is better now. I had been having java update issues and I think that it contributed to the problem.

What was happening was, every icon when double-clicked to open, I would get an error message saying "malformed URL".

I think that it was good for my compy because it is running smoother now. I Think :-)

I have java update issues too. It's funny how easy a new install fixes everything and you can get every thing back the way it was in a few hours, unlike windows it takes like 2 days atleast the way I had mine set up. The only thing that takes me the most time is copying all my music and pic's back on to the disk. I've had this FC3 install going for about 4 months now and the new slackware install is doing great too. Still learning something new every day without breaking anything

There is a problem with the LFS 6.0 boot scripts and Alsa with the new kernel. the alsa sound card driver does not create a entry in /dev so when alsa goes to set the volums it returns a no soundcards avalible. however volumes can be set after word. there actually is another problem as well with the boot scripts but it escapes me at the momemnt what it was.