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GuySkarpz 07-13-2012 02:21 AM

Avalon LUG
We are a new Linux User Group called Avalon. We are looking for volunteers to test out any Linux OS or app or anything related. After that we will use LFS and create our own Linux distro. Volunteer first and then we can figure out how to make money of that's what you want. I just want to do this because I love Linux so much. You better have the love and dedication to work hard because it will pay off and besides you get to learn in the process. So I hope you want to volunteer with us and see what can happen. I know quite a bit but I need help while there are those willing to help back. Thank you.

We will start off with Lunar Linux and Yellow Dog Linux then go from there. Learning all about it and then fork. After that we can expand to different distros. So start with a PC or Mac hardware. It's your choice.

Anyone is welcome to start an IRC chat room in your server or area of the world. We welcome knowledge from everyone and newbies can help too. This will be the main topic forum for the setup until we can get our own and our first distro with a name out. Thank you for your time and if you have any questions then feel free to ask.

GuySkarpz 07-25-2012 02:13 AM

Ultimate in Distro making. Join us. Avalon LUG
THis is a science of alchemy so to speak or just mixture of the right OSes to figure this problem out.

I like Knoppix, puppy, Mint, and debian for deb files.

I like Yellow Dog Linux (for being on Apple systems), cent OS, and Scientific Linux and SuSE for rpms.

I like Slackware, SLacko, Vector for SLack distros.

I also like Gentoo and Sorcerer for SOurce distros.

Arch is unique and woudl be cool to learn because of Pacman.

Lunar Linux would be cool to learn as well.

Thisis my checklist for the perfect combination of Linux distros. I'm learning programming and this is my beginning.

The science of distro building.

THere are many languages to learn, which I need tofind out what I need to know. Llike C++, Ruby, Python, Java, and more. This will be my start. Anyone is welcome to join my journey.

GuySkarpz 08-18-2012 02:50 AM

Planning on using Wayland instead of X11 and making the transition. X11 has too many flaws with the current setup.

GuySkarpz 08-26-2012 05:01 AM

Check out Mageia and learn from them. ALso, new architecture that Yellow Dog Linux uses and trying to make that into a Desktop.

Anyone interested in the progress of the LUG and want to help start it somewhere in an IRC would be cool.

The object is to learn other distros first and help them out to get an idea on how an operating system works and then when helping us you still help them. Win-WIn situation.

We wish to improve all Linux distros while making our own.

Thank you.

Eventually we will be located all over the world but for now we are on LQ.

GuySkarpz 08-29-2012 09:07 AM

Maybe my dream will never happen. No one responded still. Maybe that's a sign.

deltabravo 09-05-2012 03:11 PM

Hello Guy, good luck with your project, sorry I can't help you out as as I couldn't tell a byte from a lump of coal, but I hope it works out, Bob.

jefro 09-05-2012 06:05 PM

I think by posting more and more posts to your own thread makes people think others are helping or working on it.

GuySkarpz 09-06-2012 08:37 AM

Well, I guess I will do it all alone. No one wants to help but anyone can help. I only have one other person working on the project and he's in Canada. I'll just ask him and I to work alone.

lm8 10-04-2012 07:25 AM

I'd be interested in hearing more about your project. Am working on a project of my own. Am trying to find and build lightweight, efficient, portable Open Source applications in a repeatable manner. Am working on my own custom tools and build scripts. Hoping to put together a collection of Open Source applications for an education CD.

GuySkarpz 10-05-2012 02:00 AM

That sounds good. I'm only in the beginning stages and I'm also learning APL or J programming language and seeing how that could tie into things since some have already made A+ into a Linux Distro. Eventually I could use you for a Education CD or DVD. Take a look at Edubuntu and see how you may want to do things differently. I have a lot more free time on my hands and just moved so I can work on this more. Starting January 2013, I will be able to get more hardware and test more systems out. This will be a long process for me but also I know more about what goes where than the rest right now. I have a lot of tips on what to do and will be working my way through them. I have ideas but just working through them one day at a time for now.

I'll see how I can put you into the team but right now it's just the beginning stages and it will take a while before things get going fully. Just keep working on how you have been and we can chat here until we have our own forum or an actual testing product. I like your ideas and it would be cool to have it as an educational type distribution as well.

Thank you,
Guy Skarpz

lm8 10-05-2012 06:36 AM

I already have a pretty good idea which way I want to go with what I'm working on. I've looked at Edubuntu and other educational operating systems and they're pretty much not the way I want to go. I want something more lightweight so that it will function well on older computers. There are so many old computers and parts out there. Why not have an operating system and a set of applications that will let people continue to make use of them? Also, if it works well on low resource systems, there's a possibility of using it with handheld devices, pads or netbooks at some point.

As to languages, I've been trying to stay mainly with applications based on C or C++. Scripting is done with bash. I'd like to add capability to script with a server side JavaScript, but haven't settled on an implementation I like yet. Some programs include lua built in for scripting as well. In place of tools like dialog, yad, gtkdialog, zenity, etc., I'm using modified web browsers. That lets me create GUIs for scripts using standard HTML and CSS. I think Perl and possibly Python will be necessities too. A lot of programs won't build without those tools available.

I've looked at alternatives to basic gnu tools such as Busybox and Toybox. I'm very interested in BSD or MIT licensed alternatives to the GNU tools and am looking into bringing together parts from systems like FreeBSD, PicoBSD and Minix.

There's some information on pieces I'm working on here:

If you'd like to chat via e-mail, I can go into more details. Would be nice to brainstorm design ideas with others.

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