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08-23-2006, 11:00 AM
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Registered: Jul 2006
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XGL / Compiz
Hi. I use fluxbox as my window manager under Ubuntu, and recently I have been hearing a lot about XGL and Compiz. I know Compiz is a window manager, so I can't get the neat effects with fluxbox. I was wondering, however, if Compiz can run stand alone, without having to load a window environment. Is this possible? If so, how would I go about doing this? Thanks.
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08-28-2006, 09:14 PM
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Senior Member
Registered: Jul 2003
Location: Indiana
Distribution: Suse 6.0+, Mandrake 5.0-10.0, Redhat 6.0-9.0, Gentoo 1.2+, Gnoppix, Knoppix, Sabayon, Ubuntu 5.04+
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You run xgl and compiz with gnome or kde.
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11-01-2006, 11:11 PM
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Distribution: Gentoo, CentOS
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you HAVE to?
So there is no ability to run compiz in stand-alone? Are there any other xgl window managers that support this that you know of?
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11-01-2006, 11:32 PM
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Hi, After posting this I did some more research, and it turns out that you need a 'Desktop Environment', rather than a 'window manager' in order to use it. You can use KDE, Gnome, or XFCE since they are Desktop Environments. You can't use it with fluxbox or other plain window managers.
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07-19-2007, 01:02 PM
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Registered: Jul 2004
Location: Albuquerque, NM
Distribution: Slackware 10
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Blazeix
Hi, After posting this I did some more research, and it turns out that you need a 'Desktop Environment', rather than a 'window manager' in order to use it. You can use KDE, Gnome, or XFCE since they are Desktop Environments. You can't use it with fluxbox or other plain window managers.
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What is you are using gdm (or kdm i guess) with fluxbox on top of it?
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07-19-2007, 01:39 PM
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Umm... I was running GDM I think. Fluxbox was then started by GDM. I found xfce to be to my liking until I found ion3...which I love. Of course I don't run compiz anymore, thats for showing off; ion3 is for workin =). I like xfce4 because it doesn't come with all the crap that gnome and kde come installed with. If I did go back to a desktop with compiz, I would likely do xfce again.
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09-14-2007, 03:26 PM
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Registered: Sep 2007
Location: Georgia, USA
Distribution: Gentoo
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Yes, you _can_
Quote:
Originally Posted by Blazeix
Hi, After posting this I did some more research, and it turns out that you need a 'Desktop Environment', rather than a 'window manager' in order to use it. You can use KDE, Gnome, or XFCE since they are Desktop Environments. You can't use it with fluxbox or other plain window managers.
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I cannot speak explicitly for Compiz, but with Beryl, you can absolutely use it without a 'Desktop Environment'. As a matter of fact, you can happily configure Beryl to behave pretty much like Fluxbox (at least, the features I use of it).
The default setup is not very useful, but it is easy to configure your own keyboard shortcuts. I don't think there is a root menu, but I never use that, anyway. Everything I run is either with keyboard shortcuts or from terminals.
There is also a very beta dock: bdock (for Beryl-Dock).
The shortcut configuration of Beryl is excellent, and with the Beryl-Compiz merge, I can only assume that Compiz has that, as well.
I use this setup myself (~/.xinitrc): beryl --replace dbus settings &
emerald
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09-17-2007, 07:17 AM
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Interesting....
I will have to look into that. So you could just run beryl from the get go instead of running xfce then starting beryl? I will have to try that.
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09-18-2007, 10:08 PM
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Registered: Sep 2007
Location: Georgia, USA
Distribution: Gentoo
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Originally Posted by shamgar03
I will have to look into that. So you could just run beryl from the get go instead of running xfce then starting beryl? I will have to try that.
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That is correct. Further, since my last post, I have confirmed that this is also true with Compiz-Fusion. It _is_ a window manager, and it does have sufficient feature and configuration options to function independently. I do not like the default configuration of Compiz-Fusion as much as I did Beryl, but it I am able to configure it the way I like it.
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09-18-2007, 11:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Ulexus
As a matter of fact, you can happily configure Beryl to behave pretty much like Fluxbox (at least, the features I use of it).
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So you use some sort of dock and right click menu with fusion/beryl? I noticed you mentioned bdock. Do you use that? Thanks.
Last edited by Blazeix; 09-18-2007 at 11:07 PM.
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09-20-2007, 11:24 AM
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Registered: Sep 2007
Location: Georgia, USA
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Originally Posted by Blazeix
So you use some sort of dock and right click menu with fusion/beryl? I noticed you mentioned bdock. Do you use that? Thanks.
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I use bdock, yes. However, I never use the right-click menu in Fluxbox, so I did not look for a standalone app for that. I simply assign keyboard shortcuts for everything (or run them from a terminal).
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