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Old 04-08-2006, 05:22 PM   #1
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wireless friendly distributions


With the announcement that San Francisco will provide city wide wireless internet, a working linux wireless program is becoming a necessity. About three months ago, I posted the question of whether any of the newer distributions are user friendly. I ask the same question again. Please do not respond with questions about my equipment. I have answered that question several times with no useful follow-up. I have found that when linux gets sometime right, e.g. printers or scanners, no specific information is needed. WindowsXP recognizes my wireless equipment and installs it without fuss. What I want to know is whether any linux distribution can do the same.
 
Old 04-08-2006, 06:02 PM   #2
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Please do not respond with questions about my equipment.
yea, well, it does depend on your chipset to a much larger extent than the distribution.

Apparently though wireless can be a little easier to set up in distros such as suse and mandriva, I think they come bundled with some wireless drivers and ndiswrapper.
 
Old 04-08-2006, 06:19 PM   #3
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Any distribution which can run ndiswrapper will be a distribution which can work. Wait, that's all of them!

Now, which distributions make it particularly easy? Check out SuSE, Linspire (admittedly, a dumbed-down distribution in some respects), Mandriva, and Kubuntu. SuSE will be the most point-and-click where wireless is concerned, for an out-of-the-box installation.
 
Old 04-08-2006, 07:31 PM   #4
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I shall try

I have tried the NDIS wrapper with pclinuxos and Ubuntu - they didn't work. One of them started the program and the other didn't. I downloaded the latest test version of Ubuntu and it fouled up my computer. It may have been a faulty download or a bug in the system. With effort, I restored my computer using the last stable version of Ubuntu.

I shall try the distributions recommended by KimVette.
 
Old 04-08-2006, 09:36 PM   #5
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If you go with SuSE, go with the OpenSuSE beta as SuSE 10.0's networking is a little buggy in some areas and requires a bit of tweaking to work (the KDE/Samba integration in particular)
 
Old 04-08-2006, 09:45 PM   #6
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Please do not respond with questions about my equipment.
This attitude is why you may never get it to work. It's ALL about your equipment.

Here's a pretty up-to-date list of what will and will not work. Plan ahead!

If you still think 'it should just work', forget Linux.
 
Old 04-08-2006, 10:27 PM   #7
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To rickh:
I have played around with linux for years. What makes the current situation different is that in almost every respect, newer versions of linux are equal to or better than WindowsXP. It is now mainstream. While I have Windows driver disks for my two printers, linux recognizes them and installs without trouble. Based on experience with other things, I do expect a simple installation. I will bet that the installation of wireless will as you put it "it should just work" this year for newer distributions. Linux programmers are just too just too good to leave one major exception.
 
Old 04-08-2006, 11:12 PM   #8
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Previous threads on the topic:

http://www.linuxquestions.org/questi...d.php?t=384870
http://www.linuxquestions.org/questi...d.php?t=382409

Folks tried to help him, but he didn't return the requested info. Without error messages, logs, etc. and now his statement "no specific information is needed." that he's not going to get it working, so he may very well be stuck with windows since he has stated in this thread "Please do not respond with questions about my equipment."

Now Sheine, rather than being so uncooperative and stubborn, admit that:
- Windows does NOT work with all hardware out of the box
- Drivers HAD to be installed in order for Windows to recognise the WLAN chipset
- Relevant info IS required in order to help you

Until then, expect it to continue not working.
 
Old 04-09-2006, 08:53 AM   #9
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My question was not "Please help me to get my wireless to work", it was "which distributions are wireless friendly". I indicated that I would try the ones suggested.

Others on the internet have written that wireless is still difficult with linux, it is not just my experience.
 
Old 04-09-2006, 09:08 AM   #10
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Following a suggestion here, I tried Kubuntu and got the same result as with Ubuntu: wlan0:netcfg/internal-wlan doesn't exist. Other distributions found my internal-wlan but failed to install it.
 
Old 04-09-2006, 10:31 AM   #11
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If you want it to "just work" then just wait. The 2.6.17 kernel has a native driver merged that is set to replace ndiswrapper and then wireless support will be as good as any other OS. Other than that, please grow up. If you didn't want to waste time answering questions about your hardware (which I can understand) why not include that information in the original post, might be a step in the right direction...
 
Old 04-09-2006, 12:40 PM   #12
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The obvious question is when will distributions with the 2.6.17 kernel be available?
 
Old 04-09-2006, 01:27 PM   #13
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Well, in (I guess) all distributions kernel is upgradeable by hand. In most it will even not cause major trouble. In some it won't bring any trouble...
Anyway, an attempt to upgrade kernel nearly never ruins anything if done properly. "Properly" refers to adding correct local suffix and editing bootloader configuration.
So - your system, your rules...
 
Old 04-12-2006, 05:28 PM   #14
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According to various sources, I can find a driver for my equipment at ftp.linux-wlan.org. I can get to this site, but when I go to downloads ../pub/linux-wlan-ng, I can never make this connection. I have even tried to do it with IE. Has anyone been successful with this site?
 
Old 04-12-2006, 06:35 PM   #15
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Originally Posted by sheine
According to various sources, I can find a driver for my equipment at ftp.linux-wlan.org. I can get to this site, but when I go to downloads ../pub/linux-wlan-ng, I can never make this connection. I have even tried to do it with IE. Has anyone been successful with this site?
Yep, I just looked and got the list of files in /pub/linux-wlan-ng. I didn't try to download anything.

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Originally Posted by cs-cam
If you want it to "just work" then just wait. The 2.6.17 kernel has a native driver merged that is set to replace ndiswrapper and then wireless support will be as good as any other OS.
I didn't know this. Thanks for the info!

Peace...
 
  


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