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kizuc 08-04-2011 05:29 AM

Wine: What else should I do to use install all .exe apps
 
I understand that with wine running on your Linux box, you can install all windows apps in Linux environment. I have successfully installed wine and would like to know what else should be done to be able to install ALL windows apps. I'm using Fedora Core 10. I wouldn't mind to read a tutorial in his respect.

Thanks

acid_kewpie 08-04-2011 05:38 AM

no way, you can NOT install "all" apps. Wine should NOT be treated as a given. You can get some levels of success with various applications, but you should not just look to it as some magical way to pretend you're still using windows.

You should not be using fedora core 10 still, If you're still starting out, I would *very* strongly suggest using something current, fedora 15, mint, ubuntu etc, and keeping it up to date.

cascade9 08-04-2011 05:42 AM

No, you cant run all window programs in a linux OS. You can run some, the best place to check what should run is at wineHQ-

http://www.winehq.org/

A lot of the time there will be a linux native program that will do the same job, and its a lot easier (and less messy) to be using linux native programs over WINE.

BTW, I dont think there was a 'fedora core 10'. 'Fedora core' only ran up to version 6, after that it changed to just 'fedora'. Fedora 10 is well out of support, its probably not the best idea to be using it now.

16pide 08-04-2011 07:35 AM

as others have pointed out, you should blindly install lots of Windows apps over Wine.
For me, there's only a few worth installing:
Internet explorer if you need to access some web sites using Microsoft proprietary extensions.
Outlook if your email is an exchange server that cannot be access in the cloud with Firefox, or using thunderbird.
Microsoft Office if you exchange a lot of files with Microsoft Office users and they are picky about the alignments, colors, etc ...
Itunes to sync your ipod or iphone

For all the rest, there are Linux equivalents that work just fine, install in seconds, are free, etc ...

Now for me, I prefer to use a virtual Windows machine. Virtualbox works just fine.
I tried using Wine a few times a few years ago, and could only get half working, non working, or working but obsolete apps. So i just gave up on it.

kizuc 08-04-2011 11:56 AM

Thanks for all those responses. Actually, I met a Linux user on a social site who claimed he has abandoned Windows OS as he could install any windows apps using wine by tweaking some library files. Personally, I like playing PES soccer game, as a way of cooling off, of which I'm yet to see the Linux version of it. I've been using Linux for many year now, have Core 12 but somehow prefers core 10, because the size of newer versions, even core 15, is much smaller than previous version meaning they might likely not come with enough apps. This implies I might have to yum the apps I need, which will be difficult for me cos my internet connection is not too fast for downloading large files.

More importantly, I've not been able to install a working Video player in my Fedora core 10 box, my other way of cooling off. Xine is giving lots of dependencies, plugin error. Something like this when I launch Xine :

The Stream "There is no MRL, uses as unsupported codec:"
Video codec: MPEG 1/2 (0x0)
Start playback anyway?

When you try to play a file (mp3, avi, mpg etc):

-xine engine error-

There is no demuxer plugin available to handle
file://....
Usually this means that the file format was not recognized.

I've tried many methods, like uninstalling xine, updating repos, working with different repos, etc but all to no avail. Please if I can get a solution, most esp, to resolve this media player (Audio/Visual) problem, I would be on my way to using Linux as my primary OS and highly grateful.

Regards

John VV 08-04-2011 01:23 PM

I'm using Fedora Core 10
-- do not --
fedora 10 was END OF LIFE almost two years ago
there have been NO updates to it since
NO security fixes
No bug fixes
NO new versions of software
NO NOTHING - it is dead !!!


use fedora 15 or some other SUPPORTED distro
Quote:

More importantly, I've not been able to install a working Video player in my Fedora core 10 box,
that is because fedora 10 IS DEAD
and so is fedora 11,12,13

you say you have been using the DEAD fedora 12 for a year - i bet you also ran in to very big problems seeing is that also is unsupported

install 15

kizuc 08-04-2011 04:03 PM

Then there's a problem. Newer version of Linux OS is released almost every year and upgrading from one version to another is better done by flushing an existing version and installing a newer version freshly. Or do you know of a way of upgrading from a version to another, from a disk drive (not with "yum") without losing your documents?

Thanks

acid_kewpie 08-04-2011 04:06 PM

Yes there are plenty of ways. Keeping a separate /home partition will cover most of it.

This laptop I'm using now was built as fedora 13, and has been effortlessly upgraded to 14 and then 15...

TobiSGD 08-04-2011 04:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kizuc (Post 4433946)
Then there's a problem. Newer version of Linux OS is released almost every year and upgrading from one version to another is better done by flushing an existing version and installing a newer version freshly. Or do you know of a way of upgrading from a version to another, from a disk drive (not with "yum") without losing your documents?

Thanks

A better way would be to not use Fedora at all. If you don't want the fast changing distributions Fedora is a no-go, it is intended to be bleeding edge. Go for CentOS or Scientific Linux if you like the Red Hat based distros, or go for Slackware, Debian or Ubuntu LTS if you have no problems with a change. All of those distros have much longer release and support cycles.

MTK358 08-04-2011 04:23 PM

Or use a rolling-release distro (such as Arch) that is constantly kept up to date with the package manager and never needs to be reinstalled.

John VV 08-04-2011 05:20 PM

Quote:

Then there's a problem. Newer version of Linux OS is released almost every year and upgrading from one version to another is better done by flushing an existing version and installing a newer version freshly. Or do you know of a way of upgrading from a version to another, from a disk drive (not with "yum") without losing your documents?
no there is no problem
it is what fedora IS
fedora is BY DEFINITION - a fast R & D development distro
that releases a very NEW and sometimes very different version EVERY 6 MONTHS and supports any one for ONLY 13 months
it has been this way since day one
so there IS NO PROBLEM with fedora
fedora IS doing what fedora dose
--- live with it ! ---
or use a different distro

see fedora's own
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fedora_...ting_system%29
Quote:

Compared to other operating systems, Fedora has a short life cycle[citation needed]: version X is maintained until one month after version X+2 is released. With 6 months between releases, the maintenance period is a very short 13 months for each version.[8] This can lead to trouble should one wish to use a particular version of Fedora for product development (i.e., embedded systems) where long term support is more important than maintaining leading edge revisions of software.

kizuc 08-05-2011 05:01 AM

Definitely, I may not be able to follow up with the frequent upgrading cos I don't have fast access to the internet to download large files. I actually like Linux for its Security, easily to tweak feature i.e non-proprietary (unlike Windows), flexibility, etc.

I'm a Network administrator/Engineer, Network Security and programmer and love to work with Linux OS as it provides better platform. Kindly recommend a distro that can provide all these facilities without requiring frequent upgrade.

How about SuSe?...I've used it on a Live CD.

Thanks

i92guboj 08-05-2011 05:27 AM

Not even windows can run all windows apps.

Check the wine app db at winehq.org to get real info that's not biased due to fanboyism.

cascade9 08-05-2011 08:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kizuc (Post 4434389)
I'm a Network administrator/Engineer, Network Security and programmer and love to work with Linux OS as it provides better platform. Kindly recommend a distro that can provide all these facilities without requiring frequent upgrade.

Debian, Slackware, CentOS, probably quite a few others.


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