Wine fakewindows vs real windows.

Saturnus · 10-09-2004, 11:51 AM

Just a simple question about Wine.

Will wine work with almost any application if you have a real windows installation?
I see that a lot of fixes depend on innstalling real dll's, so if you have a folder with a complete installation of win95 or 98 will that make it easy to run almost any windows app under Linux/wine?

megaspaz · 10-09-2004, 11:57 AM

that's how i have wine running. i'm using an existing windows install. but my existing windows install is a windows 9X/ME using fat32. There maybe some caveats to running off a windows install using an NTFS filesystem. The way i'm running wine definately isn't the recommended way of running wine though either.

Saturnus · 10-09-2004, 12:05 PM

But is it easier to get win32 apps to work with a real windows install?

Or do you still need to constantly add info to your config file for every new app you want to run?

hog · 10-09-2004, 12:20 PM

I cannot get wine to run any of my MS Office applications which I may think be due to my Windoze partition being NTFS and thus not writtable which I read is required by many Windoze apps!

Bummer!

rj686 · 10-09-2004, 12:22 PM

ah fuck thats gonna b a bitch for me :-/............but mayb if i install the apps in windows and then just load teh cd from wine it would work

i have ntfs too :-/..........fuckin microsoft

megaspaz · 10-09-2004, 12:27 PM

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Originally posted by Saturnus
But is it easier to get win32 apps to work with a real windows install?

Or do you still need to constantly add info to your config file for every new app you want to run?

some stuff. but there's still some configuration you have to do to the ~/.wine/config file with overriding dll's.

out of my existing wine setup, i can' get office2000 to run, but i'm using openoffice 1.1 for both windows and linux. some other things don't run for me either like IE and most MS software. maybe it will if i spent the time to try and find out which dll's to override. but i don't use ms stuff a whole lot in linux. i've got photoshop 5, dreamweaver, winmx, iconedit pro 7, winamp 2.81 (upgraded to 5.05 which doesn't currently work in wine), winrar, and some other little programs running.

95se · 10-09-2004, 01:11 PM

crossover office guarentees to run office, as well as many others. It's $50, but I think I am going to buy it, and a lot of people recommend it.

Saturnus · 10-09-2004, 01:18 PM

But if you have a complete windows install couldn't you override all dll's? Isn't there an easy way to tell Wine to look for all dll's in the real windows installation?

megaspaz · 10-09-2004, 01:29 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Saturnus
But if you have a complete windows install couldn't you override all dll's? Isn't there an easy way to tell Wine to look for all dll's in the real windows installation?

no. not all native dll's work in wine (i'd say a fraction does) nor does wine implement all windows dll's. go here to read up on the list of known working programs in wine. the main caveat is, that just because someone else got something to work in wine, doesn't mean you'll be able to get it to work.

http://www.frankscorner.org

Saturnus · 10-09-2004, 01:58 PM

Thanks. Then I don't think I'll bother to make a complete win98 install just for wine, but rather try to fix it for those apps I want.