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Old 03-14-2005, 02:18 PM   #1
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Wine, Cedega, Crossover?


Whats the best for gaming and whats the most reliable/fastest?

i want to play games such as doom3(hopefully) and medal of honor Allied assault
 
Old 03-14-2005, 02:21 PM   #2
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cedega is what you want for games. but just FYI, Doom III and MOHAA are available for linux native, no need for cedaga to run those.
 
Old 03-14-2005, 07:07 PM   #3
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As far as I know there is a native version of both Doom 3 and Metal of Honor. As for games and if you are looking to play games that are only available to Linux I would use Cedega.
 
Old 03-14-2005, 07:37 PM   #4
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yea but u have 2 pay for cedega.
 
Old 03-14-2005, 08:32 PM   #5
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I dont want to pay for any native games ive spent alot of money on these games and wuold like to play them

cedega im sure i could find a "free" version
 
Old 03-14-2005, 09:11 PM   #6
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if you dont want to pay, you can get wineX, its what cedega is built from

dont mean to hijack your thread, but can cedega be used to run other windows apps besides games? can it do everything wine can do?
 
Old 03-14-2005, 09:31 PM   #7
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I dont want to pay for any native games ive spent alot of money on these games and would like to play them

cedega i'm sure i could find a "free" version
If you payed a-lot for the games it would be better to dual boot Windows.Or sell your games, and buy the linux versions.

Unless your willing to use most of your resources on running cedega
,because emulators run kind of a big process, slowing your game down.

If you consider getting Window's buy used with security code (real one (make sure)).Don't pay fool price at best buy or anything. Online you might find it cheapest .To be more secure get one still in packedge.

If you feel incomfortable with selling stuff don't worry for every month you had it, subtract a dolloar from the price. Don't settle for anything less.

Duel booting is easy (for me) on slackware10 & madrake9.2(definnetly).
Just have windows installed, on part of the hard drive, *first. Then your distro.
So probably on mandrake10.1 even easyer.

For 'First Person Shooters' (FPS) waisting one minute can mean your respawning.
 
Old 03-14-2005, 10:11 PM   #8
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For 'First Person Shooters' (FPS) waisting one minute can mean your respawning. [/B]
you mean wasting... lol and cs im sure will run perfectly on winex, i just can't seem to get it configured.
 
Old 03-15-2005, 04:29 AM   #9
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You dont need to sell anything off. To run a windows game with native linux support all you need is the linux installers for the game and some files on your windows game cd. Go here: http://www.liflg.org/ and look around. There are readmes and other help there. For Doom III or any other ID software game go to ftp://ftp.idsoftware.com/idstuff/ and find your game. Doom III for example has a linux folder. To run it all you do is run the linux installer, then copy your PAK files into the base directory you installed to with the linux installer.
As for cedega, there IS a free version, it just does not support encryption. Many newer game CDs have a key, much like many DVD movies. For a full version of cedega it costs $15. That, to play many, many games. http://www.transgaming.com/
Will cedega run other apps? Yea, to some degree it does. There is obviously not a list of non-gaming apps though, so use at your own risk is you are running a non-game program.
Something interesting of note for crossover, they are being very ambitious now, stating that crossover should be able to run 95% of ALL windows apps by the end of 2005. http://www.codeweavers.com/compatibility/

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Old 03-15-2005, 05:00 AM   #10
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Cedega will cost you $15 and with that you can play many win games. It's worth the investment to get the easy to use tools like the latest cedega, ready to go, and POint 2 PLay...
 
Old 03-15-2005, 05:18 AM   #11
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Unless your willing to use most of your resources on running cedega
,because emulators run kind of a big process, slowing your game down.

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Actually, I have found that games running under cedega are as fast, or faster than when I ran them under WinXP.
 
Old 03-15-2005, 11:25 AM   #12
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I have suse 9.0 pro and im looking for a wineX for it

do i need any other files for my wineX install or do i just install what i downlaod and i can play them?
 
Old 03-15-2005, 12:05 PM   #13
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Unless your willing to use most of your resources on running cedega
,because emulators run kind of a big process, slowing your game down.
But Cedega is *NOT* an emulator. The "paid for" version includes proprietary libraries that intercept DirectX calls and route them to the appropriate OpenGL libraries.

And $15 for 3 months of downloads/updates is not that bad.

If you have WineX/Cedega, just install it, check out the README, and run it.
 
Old 03-15-2005, 01:36 PM   #14
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But Cedega is *NOT* an emulator. The "paid for" version includes proprietary libraries that intercept DirectX calls and route them to the appropriate OpenGL libraries.
That's how emulators work. They recognize calls to the original software or hardware (In hardware emulators) them send them to the equivalent in your software (or hardware).

With that process of translating libraries and redirecting them to other libraries it's hard to imagine it not spending a-lot of resources.

I can believe it runs faster than on Win Xp because it takes up major speed running by itself. If you have blackbox and only nesessary files on your machine (no KDE) then it definnatly applies.

Some games already have linux install on the CD if they don't...

I will change my recommendation to Cedega. If it runs faster.
(I've also herd many people say it doesn't though, and I don't have games or hardware requirements to find out myself)
 
Old 03-15-2005, 02:04 PM   #15
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From Wine's own site:
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Some people mean by that that Wine must emulate each processor instruction of the Windows application. This is plain wrong. As Wine's name says: "Wine Is Not an Emulator": Wine does not emulate the Intel x86 processor.


As far as speed goes, I have never noticed any marked slowdown *or* speedup. While having a "compatability layer" added to the overhead theoretically will make a program run slower, that's theory. Face it, a well-written Windows program running under wine will beat a badly-written Linux program any day. Of course a badly-written Windows program will certainly not be *helped* by running it in wine.
 
  


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