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Kylesun 07-01-2004 01:47 AM

Wine and Mozilla Help
 
I download wine, install it.. but when I try to run any program with wine, or just play mine sweeper which comes with Wine, it just says starting wine, then about 20 seconds later it goes away, doesn't do anything.. the same thing happens with Mozilla. If someone could tell me how to amke this crap work, that would be great.

KlaymenDK 07-01-2004 02:19 AM

I know practically nothing about Wine, but I do know Mozilla. So ... are you using Wine to start Mozilla? Why so?

If you're running Mozilla from Linux (that is, natively), your problem may be the way you've installed it. Are you using the preinstalled Moz v1.6, or have you downloaded and installed a more recent version (if so, into which directory did you instal it)? The preinstalled version really should work ... unless you've seriously mangled your access rights.

Sorry not much help first time round.

Insert coi^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H Please submit more information. :p

Kylesun 07-01-2004 02:23 AM

No, I am just saying that Mozilla and Wine do the same things. I am using Mozilla as it came with my Distro, I did not manualy install it.. and Mozilla was working fine until I installed the flash player for it from the macromedia web site.

Mega Man X 07-01-2004 03:56 AM

I'd remove Wine if I was you. It takes a lot of space and it does not work, despite some lucky peoples using it. Try finding a Linux equivalent application. Here is a good place to start:

http://linuxshop.ru/linuxbegin/win-l...en/table.shtml

Only use wine in the latest crucial cases. About Mozilla, try to remove the flash plugin. I don't know which Mozilla version is shipped with Mandrake 10.0, but you are better off installing a new one:

http://www.mozilla.org/

If I was you, I'd give "Mozilla Firefox" a shot. It's really fast compared to Mozilla and never gave me problems ;).

Good luck!

Kylesun 07-01-2004 04:58 AM

Sounds good.

But I don't know how to remove Wine without running the uninstaller that comes with it, but it won't even run that...

And I can't make or make install anything because I guess my Development packages didn't get installed when I first installed Mandrake, so I go to install them, and when it checks the package signatures, it lists a whole crap load of files and says that they all have bad signatures, so I click OK to continue anyway, and I get this long ass list of packages again saying there was a problem during the installation or somthing, and nothing gets installed.

:-\

If you could help me on that, that would be great.

Oh and thanks for that link, theres lost more software avalable for Linux then I thought, I'll be sure to check all that out after I get these development packages installed so I will be able to install some more software.

Mega Man X 07-01-2004 05:17 AM

Hi again Kylesun!

Hmmm, lemme me see. The first thing you could do is to type "mcc" at the console. That will bring up Mandrake Control Center. You should be able to install and remove packages from there very easily. The main packages to have installed when compiling something are: gcc (GNU C Compiler), g++ (GNU C++ compiler) and make. Sure, there will be a lot of dependencies too, but those packages are the most important to have, if you want to compile something, indeed ;).

Also there, at Mandrake Control Center you will be able to edit the Media where your packages are installed from. If you have a nice speedy broadband, I'd recommend you removing the CD-rom's from there and download packages from the net instead. Here:

http://urpmi.org/easyurpmi/index.php

This will make your life so much easier that you won't believe. With urpmi, you are able to install/remove/upgrade applications with simple commands, and all dependecies will also be taken care off. E.g to install gaim ( a nice Instant Messenger which support ICQ, MSN, IRC and other protocols):

urpmi gaim

use urpmi wisely Obi Wan, it's going to be your best friend. Check out this page about urpmi:

http://www.geek-cave.com/tutorials/urpmi/urpmi_manpage

If your system ir properly configured, with both urpmi and gurpmi(it's graphical interface), you will be able to install any rpm's made from Mandrake from the net and dependencies will be taken care of. You can even install them by "double-clicking" on them just like in Windows. Just associate all RPM's to be opened with "gurpmi".

A last hint too: Do not be afraid to reinstall your distribution. It's a good pratice and with time, you will be good enough to know what packages to install by default, and which ones to ignore. I've been using Linux for roughly 3 years now and a week ago, I've lost the count of how many times I've installed SuSE (which I never tried before) to get my machine properly set and tuned up.

So if it all fails, reinstall. If everything is working, reinstall. It's just the very best way to learn :D.

sygin 07-01-2004 08:25 AM

Wine works for me - under mandrake 10
 
You should not have to download wine - Mandrake 10 comes with wine - but it my not be installed by default.
After installing wine from the package installer, configure it - there should be a menu entry "emulators" under the menu "more applications".

Kylesun 07-01-2004 03:57 PM

Hmm, very cool. I got rid of Wine and installed firefox, and it works great.

When I try to put what Easy Urpmi gives me into console, it says the my urpmi database is locked... how do I unlock it?

Mega Man X 07-01-2004 10:20 PM

Strange. Did you PC crashed or something? I never got that error, but I've found this on google:

# rpm --rebuilddb

and then reboot. Let's hope it will work :)

Kylesun 07-02-2004 04:55 AM

Oh yay, it seems to have worked. :).

I think the only thing I have left to do is install my gfx card driver, and then I will have everything done.

Mega Man X 07-02-2004 05:40 AM

Cool :D

About you gf card: If it's an nvidia, take a look here:

http://www.geocities.com/kooltux/tutorials/nvidia.html

I've just wrote that tutorial. It's not very good, but should get your drivers up and running with few steps :D

Cheers!

Kylesun 07-02-2004 04:54 PM

Hey Megaman, thanks. I got my gfx card installed no problem.

This is what I did (in an instructions kinda way) (Instructions for Mandrake)

Download the driver and save it to /home/(you)
Then write down on paper the name of your driver file.. for example. "NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-6106-pkg1.run"

Open up a terminal and type 'su', then put in the root password (if you have one set)
Type 'cd /etc'
Type 'cp inittab /home/(you)/Desktop/inittab'
Type 'gedit inittab' (or any editor of your choice)
Find "id:5:initdefault:" and change the "5" to a "3"
Exit gedit and click save
Reboot your computer
At the login type in your username
Then type in your password (your password, not the root password)
Type 'su'
Type 'cd /home/(you)'
Type 'sh NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-6106-pkg1.run' (or w/e the name fo your driver;'s file is)
Follow the on screen instructions (very easy)
When driver is done installing type 'cd /etc'
Then type rm inittab (this deleted the inittab file)
Type yes and press enter
Type 'cd /home/(you)/Desktop'
Type 'cp inittab /etc/inittab' (This will take the un-edited inittab file you copied onto your desktop earlier, and put it into your /etc folder where the edited one you just deleted was)
press ctrl+alt+del (reboot)
There, all done.. maybe
The newest driver SHOULD configure your XF86Config (or FX86Config-4) file all by itself. To see if it did go to home and go to /etc/X11
Look for XF86Config, or XF86Config-4 (if you have both, open up the one with -4)
Scroll down and look for

'Section "Device"'

Under that you should see.

Identifier "device1"
VendorName "NVidia"
BoardName "NVIDIA GeForce FX (generic)"
Driver "nvidia"
Option "DPMS"
(Or somthing VERY VERY similar, maybe the BoardName is different for you)
Now see where it says 'Driver "nvidia"', thats the only part that really matters, so if yours doesn't say that already, replace w/e is there with 'nvidia'.

If you get a write permission error, just go into terminal and log in as root (by typing 'su)
Then type cd /etc/X11
Type 'gedit XF86Config-4' (or XF86Config, if you have both XF86Config and XF86Config-4 in /etc/X11 directory, you would edit XF86Config-4) and edit it that way, after you have changed it, exit gedit and click save. Now you are all done.

Mega Man X 07-02-2004 09:35 PM

Thanks Kylesun!!. Hey, I did not know that the latest driver edits XF86Config itself :D. It was about time to Nvidia fix that though...ghehe.

See, we learn something new every single day with Linux, instead of a new ICQ every year with new banners :p.

And you are ready to game on Linux now huh :). If you like shooters, get Enemy Territory, it's free, it's based on RTCW engine, and it's great, easy to install, etc :D. You won't regret!

Best luck with Linux my friend!

Kylesun 07-08-2004 12:43 AM

Thanks, I downloaded and installed ET, haven't had a chance to really play it yet, but I will soon.

Mega Man X 07-08-2004 01:13 AM

Cool :)


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