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Old 07-17-2003, 09:46 PM   #1
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Windows Emulation Problems


Hi folks. My name is Chris.

I am trying to migrate from Windows into Linux.

I recently resolved problems regarding my 3D Card, and am excited to move on to the next chapter of problems I experience with Linux. <laughs>

I am a gaming and I am trying to run Windows games on Linux. Wine does not seem to be cutting it.

I hear much about wineX and wish to install it into my system. I'm running Red Hat 7.3.

I don't know where to download a free copy of wineX. There are some sights I have gone to that require money to register, just to download a free copy of wineX. Is there a place I can avoid paying anything at all?

Any recommendations about what I am doing?

Should I have a fat16 FS installed with Windows 98 in it? Thanks in advance, for your answers.

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Old 07-17-2003, 10:46 PM   #2
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I have located a download of wineX.

However I have a problem. I can not seem to get them installed correctly. I use the package manager to do it, but when I go to the command line and type in winex, the ultility does not exist. When I run games as simple as Diablo, the game runs, then some artwork begins to act abnormally. If I hit any keys on my keyboard, I get a long debugging list, with wine and not winex in many of the lines.

I'm having a hard time getting this winex installed and I don't have an instruction manual <laughs>.

Could someone help me? Thanks in advance.
 
Old 07-21-2003, 07:48 PM   #3
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Okay, some useful information for you people out there that need the same asnwer that I did. I found out something rather interesting that might just interest you...

winex can not be installed on any version of RedHat "under" 8.0.
This is because winex requires glibc files of a certain version. This version of the glibc files do not operate on the kernal with 7.3. There are some kernals for RedHat 8.0 that these files also can not run on. From what I have seen, there are 3 different version for the kernal running under Redhat 8.

Keep in mind, that the kernal can be upgraded, then followed up with the supported glibc files that winex requires. This upgrade however, requires either the asistance of a friend who has it, or subscription to RedHat.

Through my studies, I have verified that Redhat is a rather powerful version of linux that operatings networks, but is faily poor with running windows emulation. My recomendation is Mandrake Linux, Lindows, Lycoris. <smiles>

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Old 07-21-2003, 11:39 PM   #4
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I'M ON REDHAT 9.0 and it says i dont got glib -- and i installed a full install too
 
Old 07-28-2003, 08:51 PM   #5
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I'M ON REDHAT 9.0 and it says i dont got glib -- and i installed a full install too
That is because there has been reported a bug with it. Red Hat is not very friendly with Glib's atm.

I highly recomend, if your trying a copy of Linux as gaming OS, do not go for Red Hat yet. Only move to Red Hat, if you want to host some kind of server.

Dell is putting Red Hat on there servers.

Dell is putting Lindows on there user level computers. (formally Windows XP)
 
Old 07-29-2003, 09:22 AM   #6
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Where did you get the download of wineX and what version is it? That would help me answer your question much better.

-AquamaN
 
Old 07-31-2003, 05:37 AM   #7
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I FIGURED IT OUT!

Hey to everyone having trouble with that glib bs...

thats not the right command in fact, the command is winex3 <application>

At least this tends to work for me.

I opened Warcraft III with this though and it lags like hell... i can hardly move the mouse in the game

had to hit ctrl alt f4 and kill winex..

anyone have ideas why the thing lags like i'm on a 1.12 mhz computer or something?
 
Old 07-31-2003, 06:03 AM   #8
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Jon_k, normally you need to d/l a recent copy of your video driver or possibly you have a stack of unnecessary services running....?

Oh, isn't there a gaming version of Mandrake with WineX built in?
 
Old 07-31-2003, 06:49 AM   #9
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1) WineX is a commercial product. You cannot get "free" versions of it unless they are built from CVS, in which case that's not actually WineX (it has important parts missing). If you got a full copy of WineX for free, then that is piracy.

2) There is nothing wrong with Red Hat for Wine. You must use the right version for your distro, always.

3) If you buy WineX (which is cheap) they have GUI setup tools, Point2Play etc which make life easy for you.
 
Old 08-03-2003, 12:33 PM   #10
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1) WineX is a commercial product. You cannot get "free" versions of it unless they are built from CVS, in which case that's not actually WineX (it has important parts missing). If you got a full copy of WineX for free, then that is piracy.

2) There is nothing wrong with Red Hat for Wine. You must use the right version for your distro, always.

3) If you buy WineX (which is cheap) they have GUI setup tools, Point2Play etc which make life easy for you.
I beg to differ on your quote. I have Red Hat 7.3 installed on my machine.

I have upgraded to 8.0 before giving up on winex and reverting back down to 7.3

When I use wine to startup a DOS program that was made in the 1980's, the moment that program needs a input, the program crashes. When I use wine to startup Diablo, the thing repeats itself with one minor addition. Direct draw does not work correct. I know this, because I saw how the program acted and I also so the debuging.

I have used your so called program. It is the lazy way of using wine. I however, trusted my own experience and have used the -switches. The difference is almost unnoticable.

Yes, I have a winex. But sadly, it is only piracy if I install it into my computer (provided this is the full version). Something of which it has proven unable to do. That is because, it has been "POSTED" not experienced only by me, that there is a bug related to this, for Red Hat. When you can show me with reliable evidence, that I can do this, I will take your word for it. <smiles>
 
Old 08-03-2003, 12:38 PM   #11
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I FIGURED IT OUT!

Hey to everyone having trouble with that glib bs...

thats not the right command in fact, the command is winex3 <application>

At least this tends to work for me.

I opened Warcraft III with this though and it lags like hell... i can hardly move the mouse in the game

had to hit ctrl alt f4 and kill winex..

anyone have ideas why the thing lags like i'm on a 1.12 mhz computer or something?
Now this is the type of person I'm looking for. This means that the version of winex I have is either currupt or incomplete. Thanks Jon_k
 
Old 08-03-2003, 12:48 PM   #12
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You hit NPTL issues. This is *well documented* on WineHQ, and if you used the RPMs you would not have had these issues (not to mention the latest version of red hat).
 
Old 08-03-2003, 01:25 PM   #13
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You hit NPTL issues. This is *well documented* on WineHQ, and if you used the RPMs you would not have had these issues (not to mention the latest version of red hat).
Now your catching my attention. What is this so called NPTL issue? Also, I have used RPM's. In fact I had a full download of RPMs directly through Red Hat. <up2date -d>

I also upgrade my OS to 8.0. This was required due to the version of winex I had, requiring a certain version of glibc. The required version of glibc did not work with the Red Hat 7.3 Kernal. It required the 8.0 release or higher.

After upgrading the kernal, I installed the glibc packages required for winex by doing a force and neglacting denpendancies. The packages installed just fine. However, when running winex, it delcared I needed the glibc packages again.

With the exception of the IOmega Zip drive I have, there has been no package I installed other then RPMs. I strongly believe my problem is the winex ultility I downloaded. As you said, winex is not free. Thus the version I may have downlaoded may have been incomplete. But given I am humen, I can also be wrong.

I'm listening if you got the information. <smiles>
 
Old 08-03-2003, 02:10 PM   #14
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You really should not attempt to install glibc manually, especially not by forcing the install.

I would suggest doing a clean backup/reinstall of RH9. The RPMs you got from up2date are old, use the ones from winehq instead.
 
Old 08-03-2003, 03:15 PM   #15
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Okay, I'll look into that.
 
  


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