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I would assume Linux users are more in the need of DRM cracking software than Windows users but despite of this DRM cracking programs seems to be coded for Windows and thus complicated to run on Linux (needs Wine with correct versions and frontends etc. and python scripts that are not needed when using Windows). Why is that?
I bought an epub book with DRM some days ago by accident. It took me long time only to get reading it with Adobe Digital Editions (I eventually managed to run that program with an install provided by Winetricks) and now I would like to print it as well but that seems to be too laborious to do.
I would assume Linux users are more in the need of DRM cracking software than Windows users but despite of this DRM cracking programs seems to be coded for Windows and thus complicated to run on Linux (needs Wine with correct versions and frontends etc. and python scripts not needed when using Windows). Why is that?
I bought an epub book with DRM some days ago by accident. It took me long time only to get reading it with Adobe Digital Editions (I eventually managed to that program with an install provided by Winetricks) and now I would like to print it as well but that seems to be too laborious to do.
While DRM is evil, please note that DRM (or any) cracking (software) might not be legal in many countries and as such cannot be discussed on this forum.
While DRM is evil, please note that DRM (or any) cracking (software) might not be legal in many countries and as such cannot be discussed on this forum.
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sirabhorn, please note that type of language isn't appropriate here at LQ. You'll need to refrain from it if you'd like to continue participating moving forward.
DRM is "the law." (That is, to enforce a (copy)right that is "the law.") Maybe you don't like it, maybe you don't agree with it, and maybe ... in many cases, yes ... "it is technically easy to crack." None of that is the point.
A friend of mine kept a very expensive 12-string guitar in a cardboard case secured by a tiny brass padlock. When asked, he said, "it's to keep the honest people out."
I never forgot that . . .
A very interesting statistic put forth by the clothing retail industry is that the most common shoplifting occurs at boutique stores, by people who can easily afford the merchandise but who basically seem to consider stealing a "catch me if you can" game. Shoplifting is much less common at low-end stores, even though the messaging against shoplifting and its consequences is much more prominent there.
Well, DRM might be "a lock that is (or, isn't) easily picked," but it's there for a reason, and discussions of how to circumvent it are clearly not appropriate here. The mods (of course) won't tolerate it, but some of the rest of us also find it ... offensive.
Last edited by sundialsvcs; 12-29-2015 at 09:56 AM.
Well, DRM might be "a lock that is (or, isn't) easily picked," but it's there for a reason, and discussions of how to circumvent it are clearly not appropriate here. The mods (of course) won't tolerate it, but some of the rest of us also find it ... offensive.
Well, which should be seen as offensive, selling ebooks that people can't read due to having a wrong OS or trying to circumvent this? I really do not understand people who find the latter offensive and not the former. Also, I think if you have bought a book (especially an expensive one), you should be able to print it for your own use.
DRM is there for a reason? Yes, also traditional books would be impossible to copy with photocopiers if publishing companies could decide it (they can't due to technical reasons). Even if accepted that DRM has some good reasons there, it obviously is totally screwed in its current state.
It's a matter of legality, and being able to keep the forum running. It's Jeremy's forum, and he gets to make the rules. His rule is that you can't discuss illegal activity here. You're always free to leave and discuss that on forums that allow it.
I can understand someone pointing out that we can't discuss DRM removal because it might not be legal but I can not comprehend someone defending DRM to any degree. There are plenty of tools available that allow people to pirate and download music for free but most people that I know no longer use those systems because the technology of the music market finally caught up with the music online black market and now you can buy DRM-free mp3s from a host of sites with ease. DRM hasn't gotten people to slow down on pirating, ease of access has. If anything, DRM encourages people to pirate music because who would want to purchase a song/video that will be tied to a particular OS, software-player, hardware-player (iPod), interface, for the lifetime of the file. Oh the things I would like to do to the people who create and advocate that crap on the market! sirabhorn, I don't know what you are trying to do but I'v dealt with a lot of media and I am usually able to find a legal way to get all of my music and videos DRM free. For music and movies I usually make physical purchases and then do rips. There are also a few websites I know of that sell DRM-free music in high quality non-proprietary formats (FLAC).
And let the record show that I myself have published many e-books so far, and that I have elected not to use DRM on all but the very first of them. (When I didn't know any better ...)
However, let the record also show: (a) that none of the titles also appear in print, and (b) that none of them have ever made any money.
Personally, I don't think that it is a good idea to impede the customer's ability to use the file that he has purchased. Personally, I think that DRM is a half-cocked strategy. But, then again, I'm just a starving-author ... not (say) Stephen King. I don't have "skin in the game" as they do. Therefore, my opinion is of no commercial value.
And regardless of my personal opinion, "DRM serves a purpose for those authors/publishers who elect to use it," and that purpose is "to (attempt to ...) enforce a legal (copy)right." If they feel, for whatever reason, that DRM benefits their commercial interests and that it is necessary to safeguard "the thing by which they earn their daily living," they're entitled to it. (Just as you, as the Almighty Consumer, are entitled "not to buy their stuff.") Therefore, it is inappropriate to discuss how to circumvent the system(s). (Maybe their decision is "insanely stupid" ... and maybe not ... but, it is The Owner's sovereign decision to make.)
Last edited by sundialsvcs; 12-29-2015 at 07:02 PM.
Well, which should be seen as offensive, selling ebooks that people can't read due to having a wrong OS or trying to circumvent this?
Hi...
Certainly there are aspects of the DRM that are not agreeable, you've named one of them.
However, it is a law that needs to be respected. Any changes or an outright repeal should be handled by Congress, with citizens petitioning their elected representatives, not by circumventing it using hacking utilities.
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