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Old 09-05-2016, 02:22 AM   #1
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Why Linux over Windows?


Now I want to hear from any of those Die-Hard Linux fans (if there are any who happen to read this)

Why would you ever choose Linux over Windows? The only reason I can fathom is because you don't want to/ can't pay 200$ for an operating system. But then again, that 200$ is a great investment in the world of operating systems.

There are just so many limitations to using Linux, so many things that Linux can't do that Windows does. Choosing it over Windows just seems weird to me. I'm using Ubuntu currently and it's got problems. In theory it's nice but it just doesn't have that rock-solid stability that Windows has always had. To add to that, it is very limited. Most programs are built for windows and OSX, and have no alternative in the Linux world. Admittedly you can run SOME win programs under Wine, but again it just is not the same as the rock solidity of Windows. The software center included with various versions of linux is alright, but only has a few truly useful programs. Ubuntu 12.10 and 13.04 are not very stable at all. The sidebar lags and stutters, as does the dash home button. Freezes/Crashes regularly. Slows down after time. Windows does not do these things.

So basically again, why would you ever choose any version of Linux over Windows if you had the option to get Windows?? That is the question.

I believe that Ubuntu could be a really awesome OS. If it were invested in more, and not totally reliant on donations or however they work. But in it's current state, it is nowhere near as good as windows in any category besides being free.
 
Old 09-05-2016, 02:31 AM   #2
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What have you been drinking, or smoking? Or did your mother just drop you on your head?

Window$ stability? HAHHHAHHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHHHAAAA!!!!

Things Window$ can do that GNU/Linux cannot? Can't think of a single example.

If the only reason that you can think of is the dollar cost then you have very limited view of things.

Obviously you just came here for a laugh, or to troll. I laughed out loud, and no trolls are needed here. So you can leave now.

On the other hand, if you would care to substantiate anything that you have said in your Window$' fanboy anti-GNU/Linux rant, someone here will be happy to discuss it with you I am sure.

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Old 09-05-2016, 02:53 AM   #3
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nice troll 7/10 would read again
 
Old 09-05-2016, 04:05 AM   #4
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Ubuntu 12.10 and 13.04 are not very stable at all. The sidebar lags and stutters, as does the dash home button. Freezes/Crashes regularly. Slows down after time. Windows does not do these things.
Hello and welcome to the forum

While I probably would be the first to admit that Linux isn't perfect, The issues you described directly above are not the norm. I run Lubuntu 14.04 on my Desktop system (Dell Inspiron 531s) and my laptop (HP Pavilion 9830us) and they both work flawlessly. As an initial guess, it sounds as though your system might be to old to run these versions of Ubuntu or there is some sort of hardware issue.

If you would like to delay your assessment of Linux for a bit, perhaps we can help you get to the bottom of what's going on. What is the brand and model of your system and what are some of the hardware specs such as processor, amount of memory and the graphics chip? Also, while logged into Ubuntu, please open a terminal and post the entire results of this command...

Code:
lspci -nnk
This will give us more of a detailed list of your hardware.


EDIT: Nevermind, I just noticed UnSpawn's post further down.

Regards...

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Old 09-05-2016, 04:31 AM   #5
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Why Linux over Windows?

just chill guys...he's just a pissed off windows fanboy,who just can't accept how awesome Linux is! lol😂😂😂
 
Old 09-05-2016, 08:10 AM   #6
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Credible Citations?

1st thing I did after this IBM T430 came in. Pull out the Windows 10 hard drive < it is only good for this laptop only> and drop in my AntiX hard drive < this is good for any laptop only>.

Nuff said for a blather thread.

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Old 09-05-2016, 08:24 AM   #7
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Mickeysoft pays people, indirectly, to post stuff like that. Follow the money.
Well, they have done so in the past, plus false testimonials. It all came out in one of the many trials over the years and was posted in the L.A. Times.

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Old 09-05-2016, 08:57 AM   #8
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linux slows down over time? Never noticed. Not even with SLS 1.4 on a 486DX2 with 8MB memory. Each update improved. The system I'm using right now was bought in 2008. Works better now than it did then, even still using the original two disk drives (though I have added more).

Windows? slowed down with every patch, constant rebuilding...

Linux? Boot only when a new kernel is released. Windows? multiple reboots for every update.

Linux? Uptime has been measured in years. Windows? Fails after about a month (see LAX failures). First thing calling support? "have you turned it off and back on?".

Linux? stable and reliable enough for drone control, navy ship control, driverless cars, supercomputers, stock markets, 90+% of the phones... Windows? "where do you want to go"... and reboot.

Windows? Patch failures hangs, features disappearing, viruses expanding, lack of control, poor backward compatibility...
 
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Old 09-05-2016, 09:18 AM   #9
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He may be right about Ubuntu. It's never been the most stable Linux on the block. But given that there about 250 other distros you can use, that's hardly an argument. Actually one reason why I came to Linux was that I was sick and tired of Windows constantly freezing.
 
Old 09-05-2016, 10:11 AM   #10
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jackadam View Post
Now I want to hear from any of those Die-Hard Linux fans (if there are any who happen to read this)

Why would you ever choose Linux over Windows? The only reason I can fathom is because you don't want to/ can't pay 200$ for an operating system. But then again, that 200$ is a great investment in the world of operating systems.

There are just so many limitations to using Linux, so many things that Linux can't do that Windows does. Choosing it over Windows just seems weird to me. I'm using Ubuntu currently and it's got problems. In theory it's nice but it just doesn't have that rock-solid stability that Windows has always had. To add to that, it is very limited. Most programs are built for windows and OSX, and have no alternative in the Linux world. Admittedly you can run SOME win programs under Wine, but again it just is not the same as the rock solidity of Windows. The software center included with various versions of linux is alright, but only has a few truly useful programs. Ubuntu 12.10 and 13.04 are not very stable at all. The sidebar lags and stutters, as does the dash home button. Freezes/Crashes regularly. Slows down after time. Windows does not do these things.

So basically again, why would you ever choose any version of Linux over Windows if you had the option to get Windows?? That is the question.

I believe that Ubuntu could be a really awesome OS. If it were invested in more, and not totally reliant on donations or however they work. But in it's current state, it is nowhere near as good as windows in any category besides being free.
Well first, everything already posted above applies.
Now to add my take.
#1 freedom. Not just the money, but the fact that I can install, reinstall, install on multiple machines, uninstall, and install differently, all without registering, paying, or worrying. Freedom is key.
#2 Speed. The slowest Linux install I run is a dog, but still faster than any current version of Windows. The fastest Linux install I run easily beats the fastest version of Windows I have EVER installed.
#3 stability. Despite your claim, I have only ever had systems go unstable due to upgrades from Canonical (which leads me to number 4 below) or because I was running something very cutting-edge in the first place. (Vsido - lovely but sometimes fragile, SPARKY - more solid and very nice, Fedora - more solid but a little too conservative for me).
#4 I never run Ubuntu now. It let me down once too often. I sometimes run a derivative (Mint, when Mint-DE does not do the job) if I have some expectation that the maintainers keep it more stable than Ubuntu. Debian is far better, CentOS (RHEL) is solid as a rock but very conservative.
#5 Choice. This may be implied by #1, but there is a subtle difference. There are SO MANY different distributions, and I get to pick and use whatever is the best for my current project! Windows cannot provide that, or even come close. I can run live-cd images of a dozen for portable access (TinyCore for small, Knoppix for complete, MINT or Q4OS for installable live-cd with lots of love).
#6 Security. Win10 phones home. IT shares back your security information as well as usage information and broadcasts what you have installed to all local devices. I blocked that when I installed it at work (I do not run Windows at home) and the recent updates re-set everything to unsecure again.
#7 Security. There are far fewer malware suites targeting Linux than Windows, and they get closed off and closed down faster.
#8 Investment. I have contributed hours and a little code, suggestions, and (very small amount of) money to oper source projects. I OWN a piece of this!!! Microsoft is not listening to my suggestions, and does not welcome my input, and if they used anything is offered I would not longer own it THEY would! I have an investment inOpen Source and in Linux. Anything I invested in Microsoft, well let me just say that I am not seeing that investment pay off for the community. Linux pays us back in MANY ways.
#9 Adaptability. Despite what you said about programs built for Windows and OSX, I find MANY more programs for Linux, and most of them are free. Perhaps at one time application resources could be considered an issue, but not for several years now. Anything I want to do in Linux, there is an app for that (and more likely a LOT of apps for that). In addition, many apps for OSX and Windows can be made to run on Linux. (All praise to the GODS of WINE! Thank you guys!) Every single DOS application that did not require a dongle will run on Linux directly or in some kind of emulation (DOSBOX rules!).

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Old 09-05-2016, 10:36 AM   #11
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wpeckham,
Well said!!!
 
Old 09-05-2016, 10:36 AM   #12
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There are just so many limitations to using Linux


Actually, I don't have that much experience with Windows, all I can compare GNU/Linux to is OS X.

Have you ever tried to actually CHANGE something in OS X (or Windows), probably not, because YOU CAN'T! In fact, even if you somehow managed, you would probably be blindfolded, put on a plane to an undisclosed location, where you will be clad in an orange jumpsuit and forced to listen to crap music REAL LOUD whilst doing your business in a bucket for... many years.

It's great that you like Windows, more power to you, but seriously, if you're gonna talk 'Other OS' vs GNU/Linux; use something like, eh, facts. It makes for a much better discussion.
 
Old 09-05-2016, 11:18 AM   #13
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Now I want to hear from any of those Die-Hard Linux fans (if there are any who happen to read this) Why would you ever choose Linux over Windows?
Perhaps you should address that question to NASA, CERN, Google, ebay, Amazon, Princeton Institute of Advanced Studies, the London Stock Exchange, the Brazilian and Russian governments, etc, etc.
 
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Old 09-05-2016, 11:25 AM   #14
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stability on windows is a bad joke

i EXPECT!!!! windows explorer to crash at least ONCE a day if not MORE
 
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Old 09-05-2016, 12:30 PM   #15
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What's worse is this a dumb copy.
A vintage 2013 post elsewhere.
Why on earth would anyone sane do that...
 
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