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Old 07-28-2003, 12:35 PM   #46
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i am 16 without any grammar skills as i was expelled from school in yr7 i was about 12 an never went back to school.

i have tried windows 2003 server it SUCKS, you cannot update the graphics driver for a start and 'im not even going to say anymore.
 
Old 07-28-2003, 12:44 PM   #47
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You need to run directX why? It's not targeted at gamers you know, it's a server.
 
Old 07-28-2003, 12:50 PM   #48
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i know i need to run direct x and i also know its not targeted at gamers but its sucks all round. i found multiple isuses using it as a server carnt rember them now bucause it was a few months ago but i went right back to windows 2000pro for a windows os.
 
Old 07-28-2003, 01:03 PM   #49
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I haven't found any issues yet. It's better than 2k all around, and people seemed to like 2k.
 
Old 07-28-2003, 01:05 PM   #50
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One more thing rosko, you have my sympathies, the first time I deployed qmail, lazily, I read between the lines on the configuration guide. The job went three days over price, I lost a few quid that week!
 
Old 07-28-2003, 01:10 PM   #51
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heheh....I did that too and then installed extremail and never looked back. Seemed to work for what I needed.

I think my next purchase is going to be a cobalt raq 550. Anyone here have experience with them? I hear they come all preconfigured and ready to deploy, can't beat that.
 
Old 07-28-2003, 01:48 PM   #52
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i am also trying to setup a pop3s server with smtp and i cant relay ... same thing ... trying for 2 weeks now ... hoping every day trying reading and checking this site for hope ... headache ...

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Old 07-28-2003, 02:15 PM   #53
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I had dealt with an ISP that used raq servers, They raved and raved about them ( the sales guys did ), when the Internet was flooded with that Iworm/bugbear virus about six months ago they lost a few big clients, at the time I was working for one of their clients, 18 out of 50 workstations were infected with the virus. All of the machines were using a popular anti virus package that came with the machines when purchase new and were being served mail from the ISP network. The virus bypassed the filters on the mail server and disabled the anti virus program on the workstations. Luckily the machines that survived the onslaught were either switched off, logged out or I discovered the problem and stopped everyone opening mail. At the end of contract the company dropped the ISP. In the mean time, I installed qmail on an internal server and configured it with clamav, the clamd is now catching 5 to 8 viruses a week ( though some weeks none ). This post doesn't really answer your question about raq, but maybe it's food for thought, if raq doesn't have configuration options use it as a web server, leave mail to the heavyweight, Qmail!! Also I've heard that most viruses do not infect linux desktops, who knows!
 
Old 07-28-2003, 02:26 PM   #54
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depaul, if you are using qmail, relaying is disabled by default. Remote userers that want to collect mail via pop3 must have access to the server on port 110. Relaying is between smtp servers. I'm getting trapped in this ongoing thread, got to go!

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Old 07-28-2003, 03:13 PM   #55
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i am using sendmail and pop3s on port995 and smtp port 25
 
Old 07-28-2003, 05:22 PM   #56
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Just thought I would drop my two cents in here.

I have been supporting my entire company for 3 years. I am part of a team of 2 that support a company of 25. We have users on Win2Kpro and MAC. We host our own DNS, Mail, WEB, and FTP. I am completely self taught.

When I started on computers we were still in DOS and I just played around. I never really did much with them. I fought Win3.11 like a lot of us did. Then I fought 95 and 98 and so on...

When I started here I had to learn how to admin an NT server with IIS running our Intranet and Solaris... yep on a Sun When the sun crashed it was panic mode... get mail set up on a NT machine for Free... get DNS up, FTP, web everything... It was a crazy week.

Our new server was to be a Redhat box and without ever touching it I managed to have it up and running in about 3 days. Not bad.

The biggest problem I have found is with the StartSSl that you should be looking at for remote users. Still haven't fixed that.

The Linux distros can all do way more than Windows ever will with less resources and more reliably... AND MORE SECURELY!!!

The documentation is pretty bad though... All the documentation is written to at least the Moderately experienced level and are not for self taught users.

It does take a lot of work... but $800 in tax deductible box later and I am comfortable with my system... not fluent or even good but comfortable.

When looking at cost of ownership remember there is server cost, licensing, seats, upgrades, recovery from Virus Attacks, recovery from hacks, etc...

Linux is by far the best option available to any company. Anyone can try and argue that as much as they want but you can not beat a Linux box... sorry...

As for intuitive... the names of a lot of things in the Linux world are weird... but at least you don't go to the START button to turn a machine OFF and it is only getting worse in windows not better.

my soapbox opinion... Microsoft is trying to enslave the world... and before mainstream Linux distros starting hitting the shelves they almost succeeded.
 
Old 07-28-2003, 07:35 PM   #57
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woo hoo! Glad to see you're still around rosko... this thread reads like a soap opera .. well, to real geeks it does. I'm especially glad because you chose linux for cost-effectiveness, rather than ideology, programmer support, or as a hobby. The fact that you're still here is good news for linux.
 
Old 07-28-2003, 07:46 PM   #58
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Many virii do infect Linux, but to write a virus to get root privilege so you can DO something you need to be a hacker. And hackers don't do that kind of thing, it goes against their code of ethics.
 
Old 07-29-2003, 01:59 AM   #59
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Oh I'm still hangin around . I run linux on some stuff, windows on other stuff. Overall I still get upset when people here bitch about windows stability, I guess because I can get both linux/windows working smoothly without being hacked, infected, and crashing. They both serve the purpose for me in the server world. The only thing I see linux behind in is the desktop stuff. For me I can't afford to lose all of my application support, so I run 2kpro or XP pro. Server stuff doesn't really matter to me, linux and winders both do great in my opinion, and it's up to the admin and managment to decide on the product they wont, if not both.

Thas all for now .
 
Old 07-29-2003, 02:32 AM   #60
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I love linux as a desktop OS.. but then, my most commonly used desktop app is gvim, where I do all my coding; followed closed by mozilla, evolution, and xchat, with idle (python GUI interpreter) and gaim bringing up the rear. I admit I probably don't have the same needs as your typical corporate desktop user, and I've never needed anything like quicken or quickbooks.. most of the papers I write are technical, so latexpdf works for me, though I use OO.o... I'm also not a big game player, but I've played Quake2, Q3Arena, Unreal Tournament, Heroes of M&M III, and Sid Meier's Alpha Centauri on linux without problems.. I'm happy with just a few good games, and I don't need my computer to support the latest games as soon as they're out, so.. linux as a desktop OS works just right for me. Much more coder friendly than windows with cmd.exe (I guess cmd.exe was better than command.com though) I admit I may not be a typical desktop user... I also use linux out of ideology.. windows has plenty of users already; they don't need me. Just my perspective.
 
  


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