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Old 03-31-2003, 10:04 PM   #1
Recoil
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Unhappy Why does Linux hate me?


Evrytime I try to install or do anything in Linux I hit a brick wall and get an error.

I Tried to install video card drivers I got an error.
I Tried to install Wine and got anuther error.
I tried to install Java and well I dident get very far.
I tired to install Opera and well I get an error evry time I open it but it sorta works.


I get the feeling that when it comes to Linux I have lots of Keyboard interface and ID-Ten-T errors!

 
Old 03-31-2003, 10:06 PM   #2
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One problem at a time. Do you have a specific question?
 
Old 03-31-2003, 10:21 PM   #3
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Nope

No I am not going to bother to ask I am juist on a rant. Getting a bit frustrated. Giving up for today will try agen tomorow.
 
Old 03-31-2003, 10:44 PM   #4
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Hey, it could be worse.
Some folks get errors just trying to install Linux.
You'll get it sorted out.
Take one error at a time and work through them.
This is what any OS likes to do if you think you can acomplish all your grandiose plans in a short time. The OS will then "kick your a**" and you will know better next time.
 
Old 03-31-2003, 11:21 PM   #5
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The problem is I know what I am dooing in windows I can get almost anythign I want waring I know how to work with Errors and fix them in Linux I get an erro and scach my head becueas I havent got a clue what to do.

I have been using windows since 3.1 and have used it evry day for the past 3 to 5 years and Been working as a Tech with windows based computers since oct last year. Now evry time I reformat and start from scrach with a windows XP I can get evrythign working and set up in just a few days and that is going slowly.

Now Linux I have been using for about 1 week.

I need to make the change but gosh it is going to take a wile!

Call me stubern but I wish the learning curve wasd not so big.

Just for the record in the past week I have reinstalled sevrel vershens of linux becues I keep braking it. Note to self Don't use partition majic, and dont set the screen resolution past 16 bit.

Last edited by Recoil; 03-31-2003 at 11:25 PM.
 
Old 03-31-2003, 11:26 PM   #6
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Do not worry about it. I know it *is* quite difficutl at the start, but you'll get the feeling right away you set out to solve your first priority problem (whichever that is). If you want help there are tons of good docs all over the Net, if you want help from us here, at the forum, just state the natrue of the problem and the distro you are using. Surely one of us has had the same or almost same problem and will be happy to asist you (or at leas I will)
 
Old 04-01-2003, 02:46 AM   #7
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Quote:
Originally posted by Recoil
The problem is I know what I am dooing in windows I can get almost anythign I want waring I know how to work with Errors and fix them in Linux I get an erro and scach my head becueas I havent got a clue what to do.
If you get errors, paste them in google and hit that magical search button
 
Old 04-01-2003, 08:32 AM   #8
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Quote:
Originally posted by Recoil
...in windows I can get almost anythign I want waring I know how to work with Errors and fix them...
I have this blue screen coming up all the time, how to fix it? =)
 
Old 04-01-2003, 08:10 PM   #9
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I have this blue screen coming up all the time, how to fix it? =)
I would be happy to help first is this a system 32 error?

or just one of thoes anying ones that pop up wile playing games and a simple reboot brings the computer back?

Also what Windows OS is it?

Have you dune your windows updates?

What programs have you installed since it first started happeing?

Have you ran Diagnostics on the hardwhair?

If you have windows ME or XP have you tried a system restore?

If you lost your os conpleatly have you dune last knowan good config and safe mode with camand promt?

What about cabs reinstall or Recovry consal?

and of cores a conpleat Reinstall of the OS if you have rilly munged it up bad.

Does that help?

See with windows I know what to do! But linux It is like hitting a brick wall just to install anything!

well today is a nuther days so I will try it agen I will let you know If I coume across somthing I rilly badly need to get working like Wine.

Thanks
 
Old 04-01-2003, 08:32 PM   #10
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I have been using windows since 3.1 and have used it evry day for the past 3 to 5 years and Been working as a Tech with windows based computers since oct last year

How did you feel when you first started using Windows? I don't think you got everything right in the first week. I know I didn't.

Linux has a different logic from Windows. Once you understand the logic behind how it works, it will become easier.

If you understand networking principles, you will be able to learn fairly quickly.

Most importantly, post your questions on the forum and people will help you.
 
Old 04-02-2003, 03:05 AM   #11
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Me, the crownless n00b-king of Linux-land in person, has also been struggling with linux for about a week now.

My experience thusfar is that under Linux it's harder to find out what you need to do and more needs to be done usually. Documentation is out there, but the quality varies enormously.
Most of it is crap, but if you look hard enough, a good HOWTO or tutorial can be found on most things (for instance, the absolutely great "Iptables tutorial 1.1.16" by Oskar Andreasson).

Then when you really go to work on the problem at hand, it turns out that what you change actually makes a difference, instead of pushing buttons and pulling levers on obscure dialogs that don't do what they say they do (and certainly something other than want you them to), like under windows.

It's really refreshing to have an OS that gives you control instead of hiding the internals behind interfaces and misbehaving at every turn. And while you're finding out what's what, you learn an incredible amount of useful stuff (including the Linux-logic mentioned above by others).

Greets from a very happy newbie

BTW: Is there a (free) Linux-app out there that gives me the same (or comparable) functionality as Photoshop 7?
 
Old 04-02-2003, 04:59 AM   #12
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Before installing LINUX:
Go in to your BIOS and do the following
1) Change CAS2 to CAS3
2) Change FSB (front side bus) to 100 MHz
3) Set PNP OS to disable
4) Let BIOS set IRQ
5) Set hard drives to LBA
6) Set USB Mouse and Keyboard to BIOS
7) Let BIOS assign IRQ to video card and USB
8) Enable APM if you want your computer shutdown by itself

Video card:
At the console type X -version. This will tell you what version is X Window. No there is no s at the end of X Window.. The creator doesn't like it.

If your video card is ATI. Go to http://gatos.sourceforge.net/
If your video card is NVIDIA. Go to http://www.nvidia.com/

IA-32 is 80386, 80486, Pentium, Pentium Pro, Pentium MMX, Pentium II, Pentium III, Pentium 4, XEON.
IA-64 is AMD Hammer, AMD Optron, and Intel Itannium


WINE:
Wine is an emulator so not all programs will work. The only programs that I can use with out any problems are wordpad, calculator, charactor map, paint. It will take some time to setup Wine so you can run your favorite programs. I recommend getting a beta version of vmware. Don't forget to sign up to get the beta serial key.

VMware is a virtual machine that it virtualizes another machine in your OS. You can install any windows version and just about every windows program will work. You can also install another LINUX distribution.


JAVA:
If you read
http://www.justlinux.com/nhf/Program...lling_JDK.html
http://www.justlinux.com/nhf/Program..._Computer.html
Those pages will tell you step by step on how to setup JAVA. Though, they forgot the most important step is copying or making links to the java plug-in to be used in web browsers. SUN Microsystems have a few options on how to copy or make links to the plug-in for your favorite web browser.

Opera:
I recommend you download rpm files. They are easier for a LINUX newbie to install. After installing type opera at the console. Opera should start up. If you want Opera to be listed in the menu, you need to manually add it.


To compile:
First copy or install your kernel source code. You can either use the package programs that came with Redhate or you can find the rpm file on the CD. After that you install it, you are ready to compile any program that you wish.

Login as root or if you are logged in as a user. Type su at the console and type root's password.
The first step is ./configure
It gets things ready to compile.

The second step is make
It compiles the source code using gcc

The third step is make install
It copies the compiled source code to the /usr/... directory.


For more information about LINUX go to
http://www.justlinux.com
http://tldp.org/
http://www.freshmeat.com
http://sourceforge.net

To just to name a few.

BTW, if X Window gets messed up hit CTRL + ALT + BACKSPACE. This will reset X Window.
Hit CTRL + ALT + F1......F12 to go through each console mode. Usually F7 is your GUI.
Either CTRL + ALT + ESC or CTRL + ALT + DEL will reboot your computer. This depends on how the LINUX distribution is setup.

Happy Learning
 
Old 04-04-2003, 05:22 PM   #13
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Thanks for all the tips and addresses you give to new comers. I even now have been unable to install
(propperly) JAVA on my machine, but now I think I can do it without any problems.
 
Old 04-08-2003, 05:57 AM   #14
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Hi, i just started using linux red hat distro version 8 and i am fairly new to linux. I have some general questions such as where is a good place to install my applications. Should I put it in my usr directory or my home/<user name> directory? And what is the proper way to uninstall programs.. and how bout programs that I just deleted and not uninstalled and other files might have been left behind.. how would i get rid of those?

-newbie
 
Old 04-08-2003, 08:43 AM   #15
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Code:
# man rpm
and perhaps check out:
http://www.rpm.org/support/RPM-HOWTO.html

/Jens
 
  


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