Where will CentOS users go since centos has been bought by Redhat?

cascade9 · 01-16-2014, 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by TobiSGD

NJust because a company is involved does not have to mean that there are evil spirited men at work, especially when that company has proven time over time over time that they play well with the open source community.

Exactly. I cant think of any occasions where Red Hat has done anythign 'bad' to oppen source

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Originally Posted by anomie

If you are concerned about CentOS, Scientific Linux works. Really well. If you are not concerned about CentOS (which I'm personally not - knowing Red Hat's relationship with the community, and the way it would impact their bottom line if they piss off the community), then stay with it.

Its quite likely I know less about Red Hat than you do anomie, and there could be a lot of Red Hat specific reasons to believe that.

Even if I didnt know at least some history of Red Hat, I'd tend to agree. Look at what happned to ubuntu. Depending on where you draw the line, it took somewhere between 1-4 years for ubuntu to go from (probably) 'the most popular distro in the world' to 'whipping boy'.

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Originally Posted by ukiuki

What is the corporations aim/goal? Money period. They don't care about you, me or anyone, all they care about is money.
Are all the corporations there for the sake of the people? No, but they really make people believe that.
Now do you really think we live in a nice world/civilization/society?
Think again, even better, do some research, please, not because im saying, just to see for yourself, don't be afraid to face the unknown, it is just information, did you at least read the links about the media corporations ?

Do some research....

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The top 10 contributors, including the groups “unknown” and “none” make up over 60% of the total contributions
to the kernel. It is worth noting that, even if one assumes that all of the “unknown” contributors were working on
their own time, over 75% of all kernel development is demonstrably done by developers who are being paid for
their work.

Company Name
Number of Changes
Percent of Total
None
46,982
17.9%
Red Hat
31,261
11.9%
Novell
16,738
6.4%
Intel
16,219
6.2%
IBM
16,073
6.1%

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go.linuxfoundation.org/who-writes-linux-2012

Red Hat has consistently been the major single contributor to the linux kernel for years, and the vast majority of kernel contributions are from corporate sources. I guess that means you cant trust the linux kernel. Better not use Gnome either, Red Hat are the major contributors there as well. Maybe not Xfce, since it uses GTK, or KDE, cause Fedora employees contribute to that too. Actually, dont worry about display at all, xorg is out, because Red Hat is a major contributor to that as well.

Have fun with running HURD on your displayless computer (or something from 2008 running xfree86, though that might be out as well, I havent checked).

ericson007 · 01-16-2014, 09:46 AM

You named essential things only. Promising stuff are also projects like freeipa. That is something that could one day seriously kick arse! Especially when the audit part is integrated.

Once again red hat. I agree they do great stuff. I am not against the working together, i just hope the core will stay constant.

Is red hat smart. Yes. I am actually considering a subscription. Not for tech support but for access to their equivalent of msdn.

Some really great articles there but only excerpts available if not subscribed.

TobiSGD · 01-16-2014, 09:52 AM

You may possibly interested in Red Hat's Developer subscription, which comes with RHEL Server, a bunch of development tools and without support. It is way cheaper than the usual description: https://www.redhat.com/apps/store/de...per_suite.html

dugan · 01-16-2014, 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by wigglytoes

IT departments don't LOVE to pay support.

Yes they do. This is one of Windows' selling points.

cwizardone · 01-21-2014, 07:05 AM

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Originally Posted by dugan

*BUMP

Oh btw, cwizardone, you are well-known for taking EVERYONE WHO DISAGREES WITH ME IS A CRAZY MAN FROM THE MOON positions, which absolutely are hysterical. The current thread is an example, and it's time I called you out on it instead of ignoring it like I always have.

COMPLETE UTTER NONSENSE!

In this thread you threw the first stone, i.e., the one who got personal, not I, with your statement,

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" both of you have immediately resorted to labeling everyone else as "unrealistic" and "clueless" while using really hysterical language."

In this, "Oh, so politically correct world," I know being "direct" is frowned upon by the, "Oh, so sensitive," but if you are really that thin-skinned, perhaps you should stay off the boards?

LinuxGeek2305 · 08-04-2014, 05:46 PM

CentOS was not bought by Redhat, the two factions simply formed a partnership and Redhat is sponsoring CentOS, which all kinds of good can come from. Also, the RHEL team and the CentOS team are still separate from one another.

John VV · 08-05-2014, 12:44 AM

and there is still ScientificLinux
and the devs are still the USA's FermiLab with CERN

sundialsvcs · 08-05-2014, 08:12 AM

Red Hat, Inc. was very wise to realize that companies would want to bet their businesses on "Linux," and that this would require ... and, would make ... money. So, from the very beginning, their products were for sale, and specifically for sale by subscription. This has given them a "reliable revenue-stream." And this, in turn, has enabled RH to make the kind of commitments that corporations require. Only a few other players, like IBM, are doing similar things.

"Open Source" does not mean "Free," because computer software, itself, is not "free." It's frighteningly expensive. So much so, in fact, that companies find it necessary to cooperate in developing and maintaining it. Open-source licensing, with enforceable licenses such as GPL and its kin, is what makes this possible. And this, in turn, has given us all sorts of things: Linux, Android, Apache, MySQL, etc.

DavidMcCann · 08-05-2014, 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by wigglytoes

Here's the likely scenario. We'll never see a CentOS 7.x It won't exist.

So, now that CentOS 7 has arrived, will the OP apologise for spreading FUD? Will pigs fly!

Doug G · 08-05-2014, 02:21 PM

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Will pigs fly!

Yes. See http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc1925

dugan · 08-05-2014, 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Doug G

Yes. See http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc1925

Thanks for posting that. That is hilarious and true.

(And I know no-one cares why I never responded to cwizardone's last post, but the reason is that I didn't see it until today).

lleb · 08-05-2014, 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by lleb

wow wiggles, you are bent and twisted. if what you say will come true, explain to me why and how spacewalk is still 100% free even after RH took over full control roughly 2 years ago.

that in and of its self and the fact that Fedora is still 100% free as in beer is a very good indicator that CentOS will remain free and when RHEL 7 goes live, you will see CentOS 7 within 2weeks as is typical of any release for CentOS.

well i was off by all of 2 weeks. it took 4 weeks instead of the normal 2-3 months to get CentOS v7 released. thats a great start as they were only off by 1 week of their desired release schedule from RHEL v7 going live v CentOS v7. thats not to bad.