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Old 10-01-2005, 06:19 PM   #1
santaliqueur
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where did my kde/gnome login options go?


i'm not sure what happened, but at my login screen, i don't get the option to select kde or gnome anymore. i made a few updates with yum, i dont even really remember most of what i updated, so i doubt it was anything major. but, here i am, on the recovery console. any ideas on how to get my gnome back? i'm using FC4.

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Old 10-01-2005, 09:45 PM   #2
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until i can get this straightened out, anyone know how to start open office writer and calc through the terminal? i need to do a lot of work tomorrow, and if i cant find out how to start those, i'll have to start up my windows machine. just when i thought i could never look back...

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Old 10-02-2005, 01:02 AM   #3
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Just log into the console and 'startx' should do it. If you are unable to start X because X is already running (on display 0) do a 'startx -- :1' to start another X.
this should solve you immediate problem.

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Old 10-02-2005, 03:53 AM   #4
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or if startx won't help, try startkde
there are multiple ways to make sure kde or gnome starts at bootup again. the most solid one is to modify .xinitrc in your user directory. a more common way is to enable kdm at startup. (I think)
 
Old 10-02-2005, 02:02 PM   #5
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startx doesn't work,, says

server is already active for display 0. if server is no longer running, remove /tmp/.X0-lock and start again.

startkde just returns a 'command not found' error.

is there any reason why both kde and gnome have been removed from my login screen? i was trying to get a piece of software working, i uninstalled a couple things, think i probably removed a package that gnome and kde depended on? would that remove the option of me choosing them at login time? any way i can get them back using yum extender? yum doesnt work anymore, yum extender does. weird.

i ordered the fedora 4 bible from amazon, and i was thinking of reformatting and starting over and learning with the book, but i can't reformat now, i have wayyyy too much stuff on here i dont want to lose, and i cant seem to start k3b, which is what i used for dvd writing. i'll have to do my work on my windows machine until i get this working. ugh, it's so loud. i'll miss the near-silence of the dual opteron machine, that is giving me dual headaches. what do you guys suggest? you think i may have brought this on myself by uninstalling something? thanks much.

CJ
 
Old 10-02-2005, 08:40 PM   #6
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startx doesn't work,, says

server is already active for display 0. if server is no longer running, remove /tmp/.X0-lock and start again.
Oh, an old left over .XO-lock file from a crashed X session! I've had this problem before. Simply remove /tmp/.XO-lock like the instructions says:

rm /tmp/.XO-lock

and try again.

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is there any reason why both kde and gnome have been removed from my login screen?
The problem is that your graphical login screen can't run because it thinks it is already running. Once you get it to run again, your KDE and GNOME selections should be there unless you really did something bad to them as well, but that would be another story.


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i was trying to get a piece of software working, i uninstalled a couple things, think i probably removed a package that gnome and kde depended on? would that remove the option of me choosing them at login time? any way i can get them back using yum extender? yum doesnt work anymore, yum extender does. weird.
I've never run Fedora (probably should give it a try some time, I haven't used anything from Redhat since 6.2 back when it was the worlds most popular distro). But perhaps yum has a lock file you need to delete somewhere too.

Of course I've never run yum either, but usually these package managers can tell you what they are going to delete and what other packages will be affected if you do. Learning how to completely use your distribution's package manager is a very important thing to do (as well as leaning how to use it's boot loader, hint-hint). I've solved a lot of really nasty problems with my Debian installations by only using advanced features of it's package manager. Your experiences with FC and yum should be similar.

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i ordered the fedora 4 bible from amazon, and i was thinking of reformatting and starting over and learning with the book, but i can't reformat now, i have wayyyy too much stuff on here i dont want to lose.
Unlike Windows, a Linux installation can always be fixed. The knowledge you will gain from fixing it will be valuable the next time it breaks (or like me, you help someone else fix theirs).

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, and i cant seem to start k3b, which is what i used for dvd writing.
Also unlike Windows, the command line on Linux holds more power than the graphical interface, once you know how to use it. Programs like k3b typically are only front end user interfaces to command line programs like "mkisofs" and "cdrecord". Granted, these programs are real hard to use manually but you could do it if you had to. type "man" followed by the program you with to learn about will pull up a concise (often too consise) manual page about it.

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you think i may have brought this on myself by uninstalling something? thanks much.
Unknown. Next time try to keep track of exactly what you did. Actually you are doing fine. As you learn more about Linux, you will break it much less often, and be able to fix it promptly when you do. I still can't fix some Windows problems, and neither can anyone. Having a Windows machine as a critical server is a very scary thing. I have first hand experience with this. Concerning yum, since this is a FC specific utility, try to find a Fedora specific forum to post this question to.
 
  


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