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Old 04-11-2016, 06:59 AM   #5926
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none.

Penguin has many good alternatives.
+ billion
 
Old 04-11-2016, 02:04 PM   #5927
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And they are usually better than the propriety shit that you can buy for Windows.
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Agreed.
 
Old 04-12-2016, 03:22 PM   #5928
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I'm pretty sure itunes has been mentioned. And why not for linux? Apple ported itunes to windows? Linux is more unix-like than windows. Both linux and IOS are unix-like operating systems. Companies like google and apple are two face. They use linux and unix respectively, but won't support there users who use native linux and unix.

Hey, Apple! port itunes to linux and I'll buy an Ipad!
 
Old 04-13-2016, 12:15 PM   #5929
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I'm pretty sure itunes has been mentioned. And why not for linux? Apple ported itunes to windows? Linux is more unix-like than windows. Both linux and IOS are unix-like operating systems. Companies like google and apple are two face. They use linux and unix respectively, but won't support there users who use native linux and unix.

Hey, Apple! port itunes to linux and I'll buy an Ipad!
iOS and OS X are Unix not Unix like..
 
Old 04-13-2016, 02:35 PM   #5930
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iOS and OS X are Unix not Unix like..
Some BSD, a little Next Step and a few other things mixed in, but mostly known as Darwin.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Darwin...ting_system%29
 
Old 04-13-2016, 06:36 PM   #5931
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iOS and OS X are Unix not Unix like..
Both are based on Free BSD which is a Unix clone

er ah, that makes them Unix like, Duh!
 
Old 04-14-2016, 12:07 AM   #5932
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iOS and OS X are Unix not Unix like..
Both are based on Free BSD which is a Unix clone

er ah, that makes them Unix like, Duh!
Actually OS X is a certified UNIX, unlike the BSDs.
 
Old 04-14-2016, 12:13 PM   #5933
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Actually OS X is a certified UNIX, unlike the BSDs
 
Old 04-14-2016, 12:36 PM   #5934
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He's not wrong..none of the BSD are certified Unix and OS X is.
 
Old 04-15-2016, 08:31 AM   #5935
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Could the Apple / Unix / BSD discussion possibly move to its own thread? I don't see it relevant to SOFTWARE for LINUX.
 
Old 04-15-2016, 02:03 PM   #5936
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Could the Apple / Unix / BSD discussion possibly move to its own thread? I don't see it relevant to SOFTWARE for LINUX.
Since OSX is Unix and Linux was built to be Unix-like and, to an extent, to follow POSIX standards then it is relevant to how easy or not it ought to be for Apple to release iTunes, as was the example, for Linux. The same thing has been mentioned before -- if somebody is doing an Apple port why not a Linux one?
Whether Linux is near enough to Unix for it to make things easier is, of course, another thing entirely. But the situation is relevant.
 
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Old 04-15-2016, 04:15 PM   #5937
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Apple and adobe don't want to port anything to linux because they feel it is a small market and not worth their money and time. They must be living under a rock. Linux is everywhere from TVs, phones, embedded devices, tablets, chromebooks, supercomputers, desktops to some degree and more. With all these areas the linux kernel is use, I don't consider this to be a small market.
 
Old 04-15-2016, 04:23 PM   #5938
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Apple and adobe don't want to port anything to linux because they feel it is a small market and not worth their money and time. They must be living under a rock. Linux is everywhere from TVs, phones, embedded devices, tablets, chromebooks, supercomputers, desktops to some degree and more. With all these areas the linux kernel is use, I don't consider this to be a small market.
But a Linux port to, say, Android almost certainly won't "just work" on an AMD64 or i686 desktop running Linux as the majority of applications nowadays use graphics processing and even compiling or different CPU architectures is non-trivial. Notice only Linux works on all these different architectures with consistency...
Not that I disagree with your point that in dismissing Linux because it's "1% of the desktop" they could be making a mistake.
 
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I don't know what to think. I'm not a programmer so it can be difficult or not dealing with CPU type and graphic/system hardware.

They can at least try to port itunes to linux desktops. Even at 1% percent, as mr.d.poston mentioned, they could sell a few more thousands or millions units of apple products like iphones and ipads to linux users.

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They can at least try to port itunes to linux desktops. Even at 1% percent, as mr.d.poston mentioned, they could sell a few more thousands or millions units of apple products like iphones and ipads to linux users.
I do agree with this.
Along similar lines I still do not understand why Google are now using MTP for their devices rather than simply making them USB mass storage or, even better, including drivers filesystem with them.
 
  


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