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Old 03-10-2015, 05:56 PM   #5431
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shockwave flash


please Adobe, would you reinstate a linux version for firefox or chrome browsers
so that I can access several websites which require flash?

I will pay you $$ for a working linux version.. How much is it worth to you?
There must be hundreds.. no thousands of Linux users who would also pay Adobe
for a current working flash plugin.

You had a working version once.. why can you not reinstate/refurbish it so that
it works with current Linux versions??

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Old 03-10-2015, 06:28 PM   #5432
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please Adobe, would you reinstate a linux version for firefox or chrome browsers
so that I can access several websites which require flash?

I will pay you $$ for a working linux version.. How much is it worth to you?
There must be hundreds.. no thousands of Linux users who would also pay Adobe
for a current working flash plugin.

You had a working version once.. why can you not reinstate/refurbish it so that
it works with current Linux versions??

thumbelina
The version of Flash included with every copy of Chrome (for Linux) is actually very up-to-date and works very well.

Here's what Adobe released in 2012, which should answer the "why" question:

http://www.adobe.com/devnet/flashpla...s/roadmap.html

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Old 03-11-2015, 03:59 PM   #5433
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please Adobe, would you reinstate a linux version for firefox or chrome browsers
so that I can access several websites which require flash?

I will pay you $$ for a working linux version.. How much is it worth to you?
There must be hundreds.. no thousands of Linux users who would also pay Adobe
for a current working flash plugin.

You had a working version once.. why can you not reinstate/refurbish it so that
it works with current Linux versions??

thumbelina
======================
This thread seems to be NOT what the link in the Email suggests.
Thread #5432 is about Flash and not Windows/Linux differences as best I can make out.
The Adobe link in thread #5432 is broken or not in keeping with the masses. In either case I can't access it. I'm using FireFox 3.5.2 (yes an older version because newer versions do not always load or run). That old saying about "If it ain't broken..." applies in the Linux world too. I like driving old cars. Who gives the right to force people to "get inline"? If you want to pave the roads OK, but do not forbid the use of the dirt roads. They are often the best short cuts. (Less bloat)

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Old 03-11-2015, 04:38 PM   #5434
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Old 03-11-2015, 04:40 PM   #5435
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was testing something
 
Old 03-12-2015, 05:15 AM   #5436
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I'm using FireFox 3.5.2
I think that might be the problem. So you want to use a browser that's several years out of date (2009 version), but you want its plugins to be as current as possible. Very little chance of that happening.

And then even if you upgrade your FF to the current version 36, you might still have an issue. Adobe only makes updates for Windows, and only the pepper plugin is updated beyond flash version 11 (i.e. Chrome, not Chromium). And then Mozilla's not going to incorporate pepper based plugins. A whole writeup on this: http://www.howtogeek.com/193876/usin...-and-outdated/

So the actual "reasons" behind this is due to conflicting "politics" from 4 different groups (stupid and silly IMO but that's what it is): Adobe, Mozilla, Pepper & whichever Linux distro you're using. So far, the only alternative you have is to install an old NPAPI Flash 11 player/plugin in Linux to use with FireFox - i.e. out of date and may have security issues, but worse some sites don't want to work with out of date flash. Or install Google's Chrome browser with the pepper plugin so you get the latest flash version.

Personally I wish flash would just die already, it's not needed for anything it's being used for on any site I've ever visited - so once I see a flash on a site, that site's lost any future visits from me. My reasoning behind this: I know flash, have used it before, I know (and have used in anger) html/js/css/html5/java/php/asp/etc. Thus I also know that flash is a cop-out quick-fix for web developers who don't want to put any effort into making something decent. So chances are that those sites tend towards the "teeth-grindingly-bad".
 
Old 03-13-2015, 03:32 PM   #5437
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I think that might be the problem. So you want to use a browser that's several years out of date (2009 version), but you want its plugins to be as current as possible. Very little chance of that happening. ...
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P1... "...very little chance..."
..yep -I know. I also know it is easy enough to accomplish. (Well -OK with a little elbow grease.)

P2/P3. "...Chrome..." not for me. Been in computers way to long.
..as for sites working with egotistical bleeding edge persons only - that is their choice.
..Business's wanting to do business will learn to stick to the straight approach. I've come across a few who have changed already and one PageMaker who offers you a clean and fast front end. (http://tursysdesigns.net/) The great thing about the InterNet is the way it can level the playing field. Those with actual Business Sense will prosper.

P4... "...Flash...die..." Amen Brother!
..Children will always go for the candy. Responsible types will always check the value, as in what will it cost me?. Chrome comes with a price of Google having full access to user's communications and user's machine whenever desired. I "go online" with the knowledge it is a "Party Line" of old. On Grandpa's farm the use of the telephone meant anyone in the area could listen in. (And they did) The good news was that made for "911 call"s with far faster response times than any today. But they didn't enter without permission granted on a per entry basis and none who entered stole anything from the premises.

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Old 03-14-2015, 12:24 AM   #5438
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Norseman01
Agreed.

Personally, I also prefer FF over Chrome, though I'm using version 35.1 as per standard on my Kubuntu just now. If a site's "flashhy bits" wants something else I just move on (reasons specified before).

One site I have lots of issues with though: The online tax site from our "awesome" government. For that silly site I have to keep an old XP VM running, because it ONLY works with an old version of flash on IE7, everywhere else it just shows garble - even newer IE's. The schizophrenia of the site also means I need a PDF viewer which can handle PDF version 1.5 - which is newer than the flash and IE versions required.

But I fear we're getting truly off topic here.
 
Old 03-14-2015, 07:17 AM   #5439
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illutrator and photoshop
 
Old 03-17-2015, 04:25 PM   #5440
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dBpoweramp

So far, I've not found any current FOSS that rips/encodes/tags audio as well as Illustrate's dBpoweramp. I have a huge (600+) CD collection, and this is by far the best software I've found to archive my collection digitally. I do currently use dBpoweramp in WINE, but there are performance issues. I'd much rather have software that works natively with Linux.
 
Old 03-17-2015, 05:59 PM   #5441
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Smile CorelDraw

Corel tried selling a number of linux products in, what, 2008 or so. Come back Corel!!
 
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Old 03-17-2015, 06:41 PM   #5442
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I feel that Inkscape covers all my vector drawing needs. My last CorelDraw! version was version 7 (1998...) so I don't know if the later versions offered more operations.

However, Inkscape has one incredibly powerful property and that is that it produces readable SVG format. More than once I have used Inkscape together with external scripts to produce certain drawings.

I don't need to get the old CorelDraw back.

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Old 03-17-2015, 11:17 PM   #5443
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off track

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Agreed.

Personally, I also prefer FF over Chrome, though I'm using version 35.1
...(snip)
But I fear we're getting truly off topic here.
=====================

Yep, we did and I started it.Apologies to all.

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Old 03-17-2015, 11:45 PM   #5444
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illutrator and photoshop
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Illustrator I know little of. It (or one with a similar name) I tried some years back and it didn't follow traditional layout methods very well. Made it hard for me to use.

PhotoShop - Yep, I would like that one too.
..However I do find The Gimp handles 80+% of my needs and if anyone out there can work with Python they will find Python (with a little elbow grease) can handle the rest better and with far fewer "clicks" that either PhotoShop or Gimp. Especially in cleaning up old and discolored negs. Python with PIL, Tkinter and xv can do wonders with rasters. If you can program you can make raster corrections as flexable as you like. Full manual, full auto and all points in between.

I think it's #5442 in this thread that talks of SVG. I used IntelliCAD 4 under WINE and got wonderful results. It also converted a number of CAD formats to others. Heads-up raster digitizing was a bit weak. New machine and no SATA drivers for Window$ XP put a damper things. Haven't tried the latest Icad, don't have a working Window$. bummer

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Old 03-17-2015, 11:53 PM   #5445
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Agreed.

Personally, I also prefer FF over Chrome,
...(snip

One site I have lots of issues with though: The online tax site from our "awesome" government.
...(snip)

But I fear we're getting truly off topic here.
======
...off... we did.

If it concerns money and Government - I use paper. If they loose a page - it's on them. If my tax man uses electronic filing it's on them/him and not me. Somethings just do not need to be bypassed.

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