What are their names?

there should be a real dvd software, like windvd or powerdvd, musicmatch, battlefialef veitnam, (all the rest), adobe preimer/photoshope,

windows media player........(j/k)

every compasny should just use java so it will work on every system..lol

or developers can work on wine and make wine "xp capable" and enable better sound from wine to the linux sound server

What do you mean by a "real dvd program" for linux?:Pengy:

MSN 7 Altough i doubt its possible!

What is it that MSN 7 does that Kopete/Gaim can't do?:scratch:

Or maybe instead of using layer after layer of abstraction, those of us who code should write better apps to replace the windows ones that can't be ported. We shouldn't do it in Java, which is slow, and doesn't support either KDE's VFS or Gnome's. While I appreciate the wine group's hard work, I disagree in part with the idea that we allow windows developers to write code and assume we'll make it work on wine. I'd rather we support open adoption of monodevelop, it atleast allows for the creation of linux native apps.

Audacity.

Fuck Java. I mean, really - who needs a slower app? Java is shite. Stay in C++ or find something faster. Perl comes to mind.

Java = ass. Coffee=good.

Mainly Macromedia Flash, starting with new Flash versions...
I happen to like that a lot, but I have to be in Windows to do that :mad:
I'd also like PhotoShop

I'm mainly in Windows waiting for Software manufacturers to wake up and decide to start making Linux versions of their products...
And of course Games is a good thing about Windows...

I usually play online games so porting them over to linux is near to stupidity in terms of a market to support development....
Never tried, but Wine will proly choke up with them...

I wouldn't mind starting to pay for software i use if it was for Linux, I'm not paying for stuff in windows, unless it's something I really want to support... So far games have been the only thing worth paying...

I'm all sorts of with you. Macromedia has some good stuff. I don't pay for programs ported to windoze. I would pay for proggies ported to Linux. Flash-type animtion is the future.

First of Firsts, of course someone else has probably seen this. I just got curious about it and typed in the real site. What do I see!!! Real Player 10 for Linux!!

A first step in the media players not initially installed with Linux distros.

Real Player 10 For Linux.

A Step in the right direction.

theres no program that can play dvds in linux esily, i herad rumors of lindvd by intervideo but not sure about it

i no mplayer suposidaly plauys encrypted dvds, but you have to do alot of stuff and on my distro that is finding all of the rpms /tar.gz 's that arent limited due to legal reasons

Jumps in and says, you have KDE as your Desktop, then you have a DVD player, Xine 0.99 is a very nice program and it will play, VCD CD CDR CDRW DVD and more. I use it for CD playing and MP3 playing. It is very nice and works beautifully with a VCD I made with roxio under Windows. If you are not running KDE then I think gnome has some other tools.

Any Gnome users out there want to sound up.

i have tried xine yes it plays cds, but like i said suse removes those features due to some copyright law, so my xine is a limited version,i tried to install the outside version but wasnt able to get it to play dvds , so therefor there shoud be a better dvd software (that can read encrypted dvds, vcds from roxio dont have any security tihngs that prevent you frmo reading them., same thing w/ nero. i dont want to copy dvds and reburn them, first its illegal and second its a waste of cds)

Actually, it's due to patent law. Read all about it here: http://www.nosoftwarepatents.com/ or here http://swpat.ffii.org/. Scary stuff. And you CAN continue the download anyway, look for the link at the bottom of the page. CSS decryption is not illegal (yet :/ ), but some decoders may be patented in different countries (e.g. MP3, which is why Red Hat and Fedora is delivered without MP3 codecs).

EDIT: Sorry, I saw now that you were discussing xine latest. The above applied to mplayer. You may also want to try VLC (www.videolan.org). Both mplayer and vlc works excellent for me. I haven't tried xine. Avoid american binaries in any case (mplayer is hungarian hosted, vlc is french). I think american laws are even worse in these areas (maybe decss is illegal in the U.S.? I'm not sure).