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Old 12-16-2009, 03:50 PM   #3961
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Has anyone come up with an easy to configure and use accounting program for Linux yet?
 
Old 12-16-2009, 11:47 PM   #3962
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Maybe WP will end up in a niche market - but surely Corel can understand that it's a niche market with money!! A niche market that would be willing to pay good money for an operating system that doesn't hang when you are in the midst of something important; and would be perfectly willing to use a stable operating system that doesn't cost anything... other than the time it takes to install it. If they only have to pay out for one piece of software (WP), rather than Window$ 95, Window$ 98, Window$ XP, Window$ Vi$ta, and now Window$ 7....
Corel used to make WP for Linux. I have a copy. However, I find OOo perfectly imports my old WP files and is overall a better product. Ditto for CorelDraw - I find OOo Draw, the Gimp and Scribus better suited to what I used to use CorelDraw for.

That's the problem with FOSS - it makes it hard for commercial products to compete both in terms of cost and quality.
 
Old 12-16-2009, 11:53 PM   #3963
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If time meant lots of money to me, and I wanted a stable system that didn't collect viruses and need constant servicing, I'd choose a Mac. It's the next best thing to Linux, and the hardware costs more but so what. In a year or two, though, Linux might look less geeky and more mainstream, and be the best system regardless of cost. But first we need more apps (See? this is on topic).
Are you an M$ plant? Linux is already mainstream and hardly geeky at all. And it's got more apps than Windows or the Mac. There are some niche products that are available on only one platform or another, but overall Linux wins on the apps count.

When I have to work on Windows, it's a huge backward step in productivity. And Macs are too dumbed down. Try fixing a problem in a Mac! A friend had a printer with Mac drivers that no one could get to work.

Linux has the best looking and most productive desktops. Macs are the best laptops and Windows have more games. That's it in a nutshell.
 
Old 12-17-2009, 02:41 AM   #3964
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Photoshop - actually the whole CS package.

This is the main reason Linux won't break through - everything else is covered, and sorry guys but the Gimp is nowhere close to good enough for professional graphic designers.
 
Old 12-17-2009, 05:51 AM   #3965
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I frequently find myself wishing that the guys who develop Programmer's Notepad would put out a Linux version. It's my favourite text editor, and probably the thing I miss most now that I don't use Windows for anything but gaming. And, well, as everyone's mentioned, Gimp and Inkscape are handy, but nothing beats Photoshop and Paint Shop Pro for certain tasks.
 
Old 12-17-2009, 06:10 AM   #3966
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Are you an M$ plant? Linux is already mainstream and hardly geeky at all. And it's got more apps than Windows or the Mac. There are some niche products that are available on only one platform or another, but overall Linux wins on the apps count.

When I have to work on Windows, it's a huge backward step in productivity. And Macs are too dumbed down. Try fixing a problem in a Mac! A friend had a printer with Mac drivers that no one could get to work.

Linux has the best looking and most productive desktops. Macs are the best laptops and Windows have more games. That's it in a nutshell.
Linux is way more common than it used to be, but I still regularly encounter people who have never heard of it. Honestly, in my experience most people not in an IT-related profession (and many who are) have never even tried it. I would hardly call that mainstream. And I do find that Macs are the best choice for casual users. It combines several bit advantages of Linux with the mainstream support of Windows, and that counts for a lot. Sure, if you want to get anything useful done you want to go with Linux, but the standard user needs something dumbed down.
 
Old 12-17-2009, 02:23 PM   #3967
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CAD programs

I'm using TurboCAD, which runs only under Windows. I think it's the same for AutoCAD. Are there any CAD programs for Linux that come near to being as complete and usable? I haven't seen them.

I tried running it using ReactOS but it failed and I never got to explore that line of attack further.
 
Old 12-17-2009, 02:26 PM   #3968
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Tax programs such as TurboTax

Alas, Linux probably will never have a program for doing income taxes. The reason is that such programs need to be significantly modified every year, and no one in the Linux community is willing to make that ongoing commitment. And why should anyone be expected to?
 
Old 12-18-2009, 03:21 AM   #3969
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When was the last time anyone here visited http://appdb.winehq.org/ and looked what programs are runnable with curent wine version?

It says that AutoCAD 2008 and Photoshop CS2 are being run but not tested extensively. Anybody actually TRIED to run those programs you are complaining about with newer wine and failed? If you provide feedback to wine project, they will be able to find a cause and fix/enhance wine.

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Old 12-20-2009, 11:22 AM   #3970
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The MS Office Suite...although that would defeat the purpose of Linux..
Or maybe the Adobe CS Master Collection. I know they could probably do that. Unfortunately, that even farther defeats the purpose of Linux.
 
Old 12-20-2009, 09:05 PM   #3971
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I'm using TurboCAD, which runs only under Windows. I think it's the same for AutoCAD. Are there any CAD programs for Linux that come near to being as complete and usable? I haven't seen them.

I tried running it using ReactOS but it failed and I never got to explore that line of attack further.
I am not sure whether development of TurboCAD has progressed the past few years, but as I remember TurboCAD from some years ago, QCAD would be a fair replacement.

As it seems, AutoCAD does not have a full equivalent in Linux if you really use all features or you are a professional user. However, the number of Linux CAD packages is overwhelming for both 2D and 3D. There are a number of web sites listing all those packages, it might be worth to google for it. (Linux CAD programs) Unfortunately I never found the time to test a decent number of them.

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Old 12-27-2009, 09:30 AM   #3972
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I do really want photoshop can be ported to my ubuntu box.
 
Old 12-27-2009, 10:22 AM   #3973
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I want, windows "my documents" system of find by size, modification date, origin date, and alphabetical order to be in Linux. Documents in Linux are hard to find and go missing.

I would like Open Office have a "skin" of applications that look like Microsoft Office 07 and 10. That is the tool bar, or at least a help menu with clear instructions for cross use.
 
Old 12-27-2009, 03:58 PM   #3974
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Using Wine and ReactOS

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I do really want photoshop can be ported to my ubuntu box.
Have you tried it under either Wine or ReactOS?

Alas, the economics just don't seem to be there for porting some of the most wanted (by other than Linux fans) applications like TurboTax, as I mentioned earlier in this thread. But if tools such as Wine and ReactOS get perfected to the point where they really capture the capabilities of the Windows API, that will put an end to the arguments of "you can't do that under Linux", since almost any Windows program will be executable under Linux.

The one issue, admittedly, that still eludes portability is that of hardware drivers. At the moment I'm struggling with trying to get a 21C slide scanner to work under Linux. sane, alas, doesn't recognize it. I've also had little success with my webcam, a Creative IM Pro. There were apparently several different versions of it manufactured, all with the same label but with different codes as revealed by lsusb. Most of them are well supported under Linux, but mine is not.
 
Old 12-27-2009, 11:44 PM   #3975
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I want, windows "my documents" system of find by size, modification date, origin date, and alphabetical order to be in Linux. Documents in Linux are hard to find and go missing.

I would like Open Office have a "skin" of applications that look like Microsoft Office 07 and 10. That is the tool bar, or at least a help menu with clear instructions for cross use.
Actually Linux already has better search functions if you want to use them. Beagle is pretty good and readily available, as are several others. Linux Format just did a rundown on them and Beagle didn't finish in first place!

As for alphabetical order, I notice that Dolphin (KDE 4.x) does a better job of sorting files than anything I've seen from M$.
 
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