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Old 01-06-2012, 01:51 PM   #1
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What is your opinion about installing Skype?


I am concerned about installing skype for Linux and need your opinion as to what you would do in my case. The problem is not the dependencies, because I checked them manually with apt-cache policy but the fact (impression?) that Skype is a closed source project.
 
Old 01-06-2012, 01:56 PM   #2
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Then use Linphone ekiga with any SIP
 
Old 01-06-2012, 02:28 PM   #3
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First of all, thanks for your reply.


What do you mean by "SIP"?

Is it possible to configure linphone to communicate with skype users? If yes, how? Don't hestitate pointing me at manuals if they exist.
 
Old 01-06-2012, 02:41 PM   #4
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First of all, thanks for your reply.
What do you mean by "SIP"?
Session Initiated Protocol - from a Google search:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Session...ation_Protocol
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Is it possible to configure linphone to communicate with skype users? If yes, how? Don't hestitate pointing me at manuals if they exist.
No. Skype is proprietary, and if you want to use it, you have to use their client.

On that note, Skype may be a 'closed source' product, but if you need that functionality, so what? I've been a paying Skype customer for years, and it's worked find for audio/video calls to other Skype users, and Skype-to-'regular phone' works fine too. The RPM's from their site go right on, and haven't ever caused me a problem.
 
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Old 01-06-2012, 03:07 PM   #5
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Session Initiated Protocol - from a Google search:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Session...ation_Protocol
I remember using wikipedia to read about quantum mechanics but was completely set back when I learnt that the equations I was reading were vandalised. Many univesities penalise their students if they quote wikipedia in their assignments. I other words, I need a more reliable source to read.

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No. Skype is proprietary, and if you want to use it, you have to use their client.

On that note, Skype may be a 'closed source' product, but if you need that functionality, so what?
In my case, it is very important that I use an open source client rather than one with closed source.

So, my solution seems to tell my relatives to use linphone when they want to contact me.
 
Old 01-06-2012, 03:15 PM   #6
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Honestly, I like skype, but I don't trust it (being owned by microsoft now.....). I normally use linphone, etc, for voip, and I use skype only to chat with a few people that won't install anything different.
 
Old 01-06-2012, 03:57 PM   #7
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I remember using wikipedia to read about quantum mechanics but was completely set back when I learnt that the equations I was reading were vandalised. Many univesities penalise their students if they quote wikipedia in their assignments. I other words, I need a more reliable source to read.
..which has nothing to do with a definition of a term, nor does it prevent you from looking up SIP on Google
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In my case, it is very important that I use an open source client rather than one with closed source. So, my solution seems to tell my relatives to use linphone when they want to contact me.
And WHY is it important it's open-source?? What does an open-source program give you that a closed-source one doesn't, aside from the source code?
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Honestly, I like skype, but I don't trust it (being owned by microsoft now.....). I normally use linphone, etc, for voip, and I use skype only to chat with a few people that won't install anything different.
Agreed...however, I'm paying $30 a YEAR for a phone # that works on my iPhone and on my computer, that's 100% portable, and includes long distance, voicemail, and caller ID. Can even do text-messaging. For the money, I can't complain...at least not until there are other options for about the same $$$.

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Old 01-06-2012, 04:28 PM   #8
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Agreed...however, I'm paying $30 a YEAR for a phone # that works on my iPhone and on my computer, that's 100% portable, and includes long distance, voicemail, and caller ID. Can even do text-messaging. For the money, I can't complain...at least not until there are other options for about the same $$$.
True about the money.... How much do you pay a month?
 
Old 01-07-2012, 12:13 AM   #9
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And WHY is it important it's open-source?? What does an open-source program give you that a closed-source one doesn't, aside from the source code?
If I were to be contented with closed source, I would have remained a loyal Windows user, but the fact that the source is closed and there is no way of it being open for criticism, is enough for me to use other alternatives.
 
Old 01-07-2012, 10:46 AM   #10
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True about the money.... How much do you pay a month?
It works out to be about $2.50 a month, I think. I pay per year, so I think that's right. Service has been good, except for one outage a while back, which hasn't reoccurred since.
 
Old 01-07-2012, 10:51 AM   #11
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If I were to be contented with closed source, I would have remained a loyal Windows user, but the fact that the source is closed and there is no way of it being open for criticism, is enough for me to use other alternatives.
Then you should start writing your own instant-messenger server immediately.

Yahoo, MSN, AOL, etc., ALL have closed-source backends. While you may be able to use Kopete or other open-source CLIENTS, the servers are NOT open source. Protocol descriptions were released, so clients could be written. Even Jabber (which DOES have an open-source server), has a closed-source commercial version.

If you think about what Skype is (essentially, a worldwide VOIP service), and one for which some folks pay for, is why it's closed. The only difference here is they provide you a client.

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Old 01-07-2012, 12:24 PM   #12
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It works out to be about $2.50 a month, I think. I pay per year, so I think that's right. Service has been good, except for one outage a while back, which hasn't reoccurred since.
Oh wow, that is actually pretty good. You have intrigued me to check their paid services out now.....
 
Old 01-07-2012, 01:00 PM   #13
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if Skype is owned by MS, won't it soon be withdrawn or stop working on Linux?
 
Old 01-07-2012, 05:04 PM   #14
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if Skype is owned by MS, won't it soon be withdrawn or stop working on Linux?
Not necessarily.

I'm aware of another Microsoft product, indeed a Microsoft branded product where Linux is supported.
 
Old 01-08-2012, 06:06 AM   #15
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Then you should start writing your own instant-messenger server immediately.

Yahoo, MSN, AOL, etc., ALL have closed-source backends. While you may be able to use Kopete or other open-source CLIENTS, the servers are NOT open source. Protocol descriptions were released, so clients could be written. Even Jabber (which DOES have an open-source server), has a closed-source commercial version.

If you think about what Skype is (essentially, a worldwide VOIP service), and one for which some folks pay for, is why it's closed. The only difference here is they provide you a client.
Shame on you for indulging into personal attacks.
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