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Old 11-28-2004, 02:31 PM   #1
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What do you use to browse the web?


I've heard a lot of good things about tons of web browsers out there. People have recommended to me to use Opera (my brother back in the day said this), to Mozilla, to firefox.

While I have been using Firefox, I seem to be getting more page display errors (frames get doubled...things load IN a sidebar frame as opposed to the man frame). I completely understand that it is due to brain-dead coding on the web-designer's side, but there are a lot of those out there. I have switched back to Mozilla (which I used in Windows far before I switched to Linux...the open source community slowly sucked me in.. ). I like a lot of the features in Mozilla, like the ability to bookmark all of the tabs i have open into one bookmark file (I do a lot of research, and this saves my life!). I miss all of the extensions I had in Firefox, but I get no display errors anymore, and all of the fonts actually appear as the correct size, and not the itty bitty sizes that Firefox liked the convert things to.

So I pose this question.

What web-browser do YOU use, and why?
 
Old 11-28-2004, 03:11 PM   #2
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I've been using Firefox since it was Phoenix 0.4 (i.e. late 2002), both on Linux and Windows. I can't speak for others, but I myself have not encountered too many Web sites that don't display correctly under Firefox. That may make sense since a lot of the Web sites I visit are UNIX/Linux/Open Source related and they tend to conform to the W3C standards.
 
Old 11-28-2004, 06:10 PM   #3
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I'd agree with daihard... Back when Opera first came out, I decided to give it a shot and try something new (and non-Microsoft). I really liked it, since I felt that it gave me more control over how I view the net.

I was never really happy with Mozilla, since I found it to be too bloated for my taste. Also, the speed didn't impress me at all. I was very, very happy when Firefox first came out. I've been using it since the day I read about it first, and I haven't looked back. There's one site that I visit often that I need to use IE for, but that's it.

I also run some Firefox extensions, which give me far more freedom over how I interact with the net than I ever would have imagined. For example, I use the Adblock extension, which lets me right click on an ad on a site and block it for good. Don't feel like building up a database of ad sites yourself? Fine, download an already-prepared database and you'll only rarely see ads on the net anymore.

I personally don't buy things if they're advertised in an annoying fashion (although I can't explain why thousands of people keep buying stuff advertised by spam - thanks for encouraging spam, whoever you are!), so nobody's losing any money by me not seeing their ads.

You can also get extentions that let you know if you've got Gmail, news related extensions... the list goes on and on.

Considering speed, security, price (FREE!), utility, and just the basic feeling you get from using open source, Firefox can't be beaten. It'll be a long time before I even think of the words "Opera" or "IE" again...

Baltika
 
Old 11-28-2004, 06:46 PM   #4
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Firefox here.
 
Old 11-28-2004, 07:08 PM   #5
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firefox all the way.

i have a seen a few of those sites that do not display correctly but cannot offer any links.

but overall i like firefox functionality.
 
Old 11-28-2004, 07:31 PM   #6
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Opera or Konqueror. In my experience, they're both faster than Mozilla/Firefox/Netscape related browsers.
 
Old 11-28-2004, 07:38 PM   #7
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Very happy with Firefox. Never have had any problems with any of the bank sites or other sites designed by Microshaft shareholders.
 
Old 11-28-2004, 07:53 PM   #8
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I would use Konqueror except I can't seem to make it close a tab by double clicking on it which is something that's really handy in FF with Tabbrowser Extensions.
 
Old 11-28-2004, 07:56 PM   #9
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Very happy with Firefox. Never have had any problems with any of the bank sites or other sites designed by Microshaft shareholders.
Ditto. I use Wells Fargo. I've never had any problems viewing/using their online banking site with Firefox.
 
Old 11-28-2004, 10:24 PM   #10
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Awesome.
I haven't noticed too much of a speed difference between Mozilla and Firefox...but then again, I AM on dialup (yuck). I really do love the extensions of Firefox, but have problems with my college's web-page and frames...

Other than that i am completely happy with it.

Oh well, guess I'll just use Opera for my College pages, and Firefox for everything else, as I have NO problems with it anywhere else..

Hell, the people who BUILD my college web-pages work at a MAJOR univeristy in Florida, and are supposed to be already running on a UNIX based system.. But then again, there are two people who run a system that is supposed to support 40 thousand people.... I guess I have to give them SOME credit.

Seems to me that Firefox is the new standard in the Open Source community, and I can't say that I am complaning.
 
Old 11-28-2004, 10:43 PM   #11
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Netscape here. Never any problems with it, and it's very configurable. Never used IE... never will. It's for "default" internet users. I also like Firefox.
 
Old 11-28-2004, 11:07 PM   #12
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I use Firefox and have since it had the nicer name of Phoenix that had to be dropped due to stupid trademark considerations. (Eventually nobody will be able to market anything, because of conflicts, I suppose.)

I rarely find a site that doesn't display adequately in Firefox; one that I can think of offhand is Radio Shack's, where the dropdown menus are illegible unless you're lucky to have them drop down in just the right place (they're transparent!), but that's undoubtedly substandard web design. Personally I think it's admirable that Firefox adheres tightly to defined international standards, and I can generally live without viewing sites that are designed for Internet Explorer.

My only complaiant is that like so much software Firefox gets more complicated and in some ways worse with every release. To give one small example, it used to be the work of three or four minutes to install RealPlayer in a new version of Firefox. With the version I went to a couple of weeks ago, I've been totally unable to get RealPlayer to work. However, it also won't work by itself! So it may be Mandrake 10.1 that's the problem, instead.

It's a nuisance to have to search for extensions that were enjoyable but no longer work in a later version of Firefox. Likewise, to have to go to the mycroft site to get all my favorite search engines back for the search box.

But Firefox is extremely fast and seems generally stable. I used Opera when I was still a MS Windows user, till I found I liked Internet Explorer 5.5 even better. Now that I will not have anything to do with Microsoft products, I prefer Firefox to Opera mainly because the fonts are much better in Firefox--in fact equal to anything I ever had under Windows.
 
Old 11-29-2004, 12:03 AM   #13
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Quote:
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I use Firefox and have since it had the nicer name of Phoenix that had to be dropped due to stupid trademark considerations. (Eventually nobody will be able to market anything, because of conflicts, I suppose.)
Do you happen to visit MozillaZine frequently ?
 
Old 11-29-2004, 12:10 AM   #14
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Using Firefox here.
 
Old 11-29-2004, 12:11 AM   #15
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Do you happen to visit MozillaZine frequently ?
Don't tell me I've become NOTORIOUS there!

I actually try to stay away because I get so mad. Sometimes, though, that's the best place to try (and I emphasize
TRY) to find an answer . . .
 
  


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