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Old 06-13-2012, 10:34 PM   #1
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using a native windows installation while in linux


hey... if i had a windows XP license, would it be possible to install the system files for windows on a fat or ntfs partition, and somehow be able to use the real windows files and registry to run applications?.. ive used linux a lot in the past and would absolutely love to stay there, but there are a few applications i use on windows that i absolutely cannot get a suitable alternative for on linux, and dual-booting is a pain in the neck...

so... what are my options?
 
Old 06-13-2012, 11:01 PM   #2
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Its more complex than that.
You must have a decent MS env, so either dual boot, or use Wine http://www.winehq.org/ or install MS in a VM (if possible) or install MS instead and put Linux in a VM or there is wubi, which is Ubuntu installed as an 'app' under MS.

HTH

PS If you tell us which MS Apps you are trying to replace, someone may come up with a Linux alternative.
See also http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/...ndows_software
 
Old 06-13-2012, 11:05 PM   #3
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hey... if i had a windows XP license, would it be possible to install the system files for windows on a fat or ntfs partition, and somehow be able to use the real windows files and registry to run applications?.. ive used linux a lot in the past and would absolutely love to stay there, but there are a few applications i use on windows that i absolutely cannot get a suitable alternative for on linux, and dual-booting is a pain in the neck...

so... what are my options?
What are the applications you need to run in Windows?
 
Old 06-13-2012, 11:33 PM   #4
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i run autodesk inventor.. but id be willing to accept solidworks as well, theres not a solution to replace either of these yet, and none of the 3D CAD/modeling software have the neccessary features to compete... that being said they can be pretty GPU and CPU hungry, so running in vmware just wouldnt work that well.. and i dont think anyone has had any luck with wine yet

i was curious if wine would be at all any better with a native installation of windows to work with because i never seem to have much luck with wine
 
Old 06-13-2012, 11:39 PM   #5
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My guess is that you may have to dual boot Windows with Linux to run CAD apps.
 
Old 06-14-2012, 01:48 AM   #6
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Wine is not able to use a native Windows installation without destroying it. Both, Inventor and Solidworks, have a "Garbage" rating for Wine, so I would think that dual-booting your system is the only option for you.
 
Old 06-14-2012, 03:13 PM   #7
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There was a dream at one time to run them side by side as such but as above it is complex.

You could run a windows install and then isntall co-linux (another one I forget) to run both at the same time.

I think you could run mkstoolkit but it costs a lot.


There is a way to run almost any windows app in wine but it gets to be too much trouble.

The VM choice is the way I do it. The better the system is and the more it supports VM's makes it a better option.

There is a way to run bare metal but that generally stinks for a home use.


Guess you could run xen if your system is supported. A common free vm like vmplayer or virtualbox is pretty easy.
 
Old 06-14-2012, 03:27 PM   #8
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Guess you could run xen if your system is supported. A common free vm like vmplayer or virtualbox is pretty easy.
Not to sound stupid or anything, but I've been trying to get VirtualBox to work for almost a year now. Even downloading prebuilt VDIs has failed to give me a mountable VM, which is really a tremendous shame. Sure hate to see several thousand dollars' worth of software just moldering on my shelves, but none will even try to run via WINE thus far.

(one such is Command and Conquer: First Decade, which I (also) cannot get to install on Win7.)
 
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Not to sound stupid or anything, but I've been trying to get VirtualBox to work for almost a year now. Even downloading prebuilt VDIs has failed to give me a mountable VM, which is really a tremendous shame. Sure hate to see several thousand dollars' worth of software just moldering on my shelves, but none will even try to run via WINE thus far.

(one such is Command and Conquer: First Decade, which I (also) cannot get to install on Win7.)
If you try to run games in Virtualbox, forget it, only a few old games will work. For Command&Conquer you might want to have a look here: http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManage...ation&iId=3328
Only one of the games has a "Garbage" rating, the others should run at least partially, some have even a "Platinum" rating.
 
Old 06-14-2012, 05:14 PM   #10
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If you try to run games in Virtualbox, forget it, only a few old games will work. For Command&Conquer you might want to have a look here: http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManage...ation&iId=3328
Only one of the games has a "Garbage" rating, the others should run at least partially, some have even a "Platinum" rating.
erm.. virtualbox != wine, wine is aan API compatibility layer that sits on top of Linux to run windows programs, virtualbox pretends to be a computer on which you can install windows.

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Not to sound stupid or anything, but I've been trying to get VirtualBox to work for almost a year now. Even downloading prebuilt VDIs has failed to give me a mountable VM, which is really a tremendous shame. Sure hate to see several thousand dollars' worth of software just moldering on my shelves, but none will even try to run via WINE thus far.

(one such is Command and Conquer: First Decade, which I (also) cannot get to install on Win7.)
i would not try to use a pre-built vdi for virtualbox, that can be troublesome at best, i would go through the process of creating a new vdi, obtain a windows XP disc if you don't already have one, and pretend the machine is a blank unformatted machine (which it is), and perform the installation of windows XP on the new vdi you created using the License key you have in your posession. that would be the easiest way imho, then once windows XP is installed, you install the 'guest additions' on top of windows XP, then you install your software as if you were installing it on a real machine.
 
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erm.. virtualbox != wine, wine is aan API compatibility layer that sits on top of Linux to run windows programs, virtualbox pretends to be a computer on which you can install windows.
Yes, but rdanner3 stated that he has problems with Virtualbox and with Wine, and he especially mentioned those games. So I informed him that Virtualbox is not a viable way to run games (I tried that some time ago) and that at least some of the games run with Wine.
 
Old 06-14-2012, 07:24 PM   #12
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rdanner3, I welcome your issue but if you want help could you please post it on a new thread.

I get confused when two people are talking. (well, one is enough to confuse me)
 
  


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