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Old 09-17-2016, 11:29 AM   #1
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use different linux distro


I am looking at installing different linux distro, I am currently using opensuse 13.1. But the developers of opensuse don't seem to understand the difference’s between stable and unstable, some examples are bluetooth not working in KDE 4.11 (even after following the 'workaround' for KDE 4.11), before that (in opensuse 12.3) HDMI audio not working full stop (no matter what I tried). Even when I tried upgrading to leap 42.1, after it downloaded over 1000 updates, kwallet hung the system and I lost every one of them. They just keep releasing software that is not ready to be released, so can anyone recommend a different distro that has a decent implementation of KDE. As I would still like to use KDE as my DE. And a distro where I do NOT have to put in the root password just to access the other hard drives in my PC (as it has 3 hard drives) and where I can connect my wifi devices without having to once again put in the root password (or go though some other idiotic process, like CentOS)?
 
Old 09-17-2016, 11:41 AM   #2
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distro where I do NOT have to put in the root password just to access the other hard drives in my PC
As long as I've been running Slackware I've never had to type in my root password just to access my other drives on this box. Give Slackware a try, you might like it.
http://www.slackware.com/getslack/

I couldn't get the audio in Open Suse to work either.
 
Old 09-17-2016, 12:01 PM   #3
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SLACKWARE is very solid, as said above. CentOS is VERY solid, as it follows the conservative RHEL highway. DEBIAN stable is solid as a rock.

A solid, dependable, stable distribution does not mean that EVERYTHING will work on first boot, or that nothing will ever break. Still, any of these can be a very good and dependable way to go.
Take image backups before any major upgrade or install. If you value stability, backups and a backout plan are a 'must do' item.
 
Old 09-17-2016, 12:04 PM   #4
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When SUSE's good, it's good, but...!

If you like KDE, then the best bets are PCLinuxOS or Slackware. But if you loose patience with "idiotic processes" (so do I), you may not like Slackware's hands-on approach and 1990s-style package management, so I'd recommend Salix — "Linux for lazy slackers". Either PCLinuxOS or Salix should do, so try them both live.
 
Old 09-17-2016, 07:23 PM   #5
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When SUSE's good, it's good, but...!

If you like KDE, then the best bets are PCLinuxOS or Slackware. But if you loose patience with "idiotic processes" (so do I), you may not like Slackware's hands-on approach and 1990s-style package management, so I'd recommend Salix — "Linux for lazy slackers". Either PCLinuxOS or Salix should do, so try them both live.
+1 for this.

I found the transition from OpenSUSE to Salix VERY easy. Be warned, in my case I went from Salix to Slackware in less than two weeks - originally despite the "idiotic processes" and "1990s-style package management", then because of them (must admit that I do use gslapt sometimes).
 
Old 09-17-2016, 09:29 PM   #6
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The current Debian allows you to select KDE for your desktop at time of install. Indeed, it gives you a choice of several desktops; you can choose one or more.

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Old 09-17-2016, 09:39 PM   #7
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I recently installed Debian Testing and during the installation I had all these choices for the DE-

.Debian Desktop Environment
.KDE
.Gnome
.XFCE and
.LXDE
 
Old 09-18-2016, 07:03 AM   #8
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The first decision you have to make is whether you want/need to stick with KDE4 or start using Plasma 5. Playing about with one or two live distros should give you a better idea.

Mint 18 KDE, just launched, uses Plasma 5 and appears to implement it well.
 
Old 09-19-2016, 02:44 AM   #9
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SLACKWARE is very solid, as said above. CentOS is VERY solid, as it follows the conservative RHEL highway. DEBIAN stable is solid as a rock.

A solid, dependable, stable distribution does not mean that EVERYTHING will work on first boot, or that nothing will ever break. Still, any of these can be a very good and dependable way to go.
Take image backups before any major upgrade or install. If you value stability, backups and a backout plan are a 'must do' item.
Always do, and glad I do, so could not agree with you more! Good advice! And thanks for your suggestions, I will try Slackware out, but as for CentOS, I did try it but it would not let me connect my wifi device. And I'm sorry but I really cannot be bothered trying to figure out why. So I think I'll give CentOS a miss, but thanks again for your suggestions all the same.
 
Old 09-19-2016, 02:46 AM   #10
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When SUSE's good, it's good, but...!

If you like KDE, then the best bets are PCLinuxOS or Slackware. But if you loose patience with "idiotic processes" (so do I), you may not like Slackware's hands-on approach and 1990s-style package management, so I'd recommend Salix — "Linux for lazy slackers". Either PCLinuxOS or Salix should do, so try them both live.
Thank you for your advice, I will try PCLinuxOS out (downloading now), thanks again!
 
Old 09-19-2016, 02:49 AM   #11
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And thanks to everyone else for your suggestions, as I now have a good idea of which why to head, thanks all!
 
Old 09-21-2016, 02:46 AM   #12
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Another option is TDE, which you can install alongside KDE4 in 13.1. If you like it, then upgrading to 42.1 or 42.2 when Evergreen 13.1 support ends should be sweet. KDE3 is still an option in 13.1, 13.2 and 42.1. I'm still running KDE3 on 42.1, but expect to switch to TDE when upgrading to 42.2.

I've been running Plasma 5 on several machines' test installations of TW, 42.1 and Fedora, and following Plasma 5 development on KDE mailing lists and forums. I doubt any distro's Plasma 5 is yet capable of the stability of either KDE3 or KDE4. There are still many niggles, some of which are dependent on unfixed (upstream) QT5 bugs. For instance: 1-it remains impossible to specify a bold font for window titles; 2-ISO8601 dates and times are not selectable anywhere if using locale en_US; 3-still cannot have different wallpaper on different virtual desktops.
 
Old 09-21-2016, 09:34 AM   #13
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Slackware is cool, if you enjoy typing a lot to get things installed. but besides that it is a rocker. I use Void it works and is updated daily ... I've never had any real problems with it to state. I do not use KDE (DE's make me puke, lol) XFCE4 wm is what I use. they have a very well extenive repo and a build system to add whatever else your heart desires to install onto it. and it is fast.
 
Old 09-21-2016, 10:11 AM   #14
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OpenSuSE is probably perfectly stable (if you don't run KDE). Just saying. I've always avoided the whole gnome / kde debate, they're not the only players in town. But I'm a bit jaded and tend towards lower spec'd hardware. I'm not against using those. I even have a KDE 1.0 book that I bought sometime in the late 90s or early naughts (which I'll probably never read). I've just never had much luck with that DE outside of SuSE 6.1. And even then it was quite the pixel waste on a 1024x768 display. And it was annoying in that apps took a good 6+ seconds to launch, even an xterm. Which made windows seem performant at times. Luckily SuSE 7 wouldn't install on my laptop which sent me in the direction of debian. I sometimes try ubuntu, fedora, and arch. I tried slackware too, but I draw the line at building packages as actual root.
 
Old 09-23-2016, 02:04 AM   #15
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Slackware is cool, if you enjoy typing a lot to get things installed. but besides that it is a rocker. I use Void it works and is updated daily ... I've never had any real problems with it to state. I do not use KDE (DE's make me puke, lol) XFCE4 wm is what I use. they have a very well extenive repo and a build system to add whatever else your heart desires to install onto it. and it is fast.
I did try it in a VM, but I really cannot be bothered getting too technical if that makes sense. I could sit there and work it out if I really wanted, but I prefer something that has a easy GUI way of installing, setting up, and configuring it. I'm just too lazy these days ;-) But thanks for your help anyways.
 
  


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