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Old 11-11-2008, 08:45 AM   #91
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Who? bashyow? I thought he just stormed off in a huff on his accord. Went seeking other "more enlightened" forums.
bashyow did storm off on his own.

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Don't know whether davidx has been banned.
Cooling off period means he's been banned for probably 24 hours or so.
 
Old 11-11-2008, 08:45 AM   #92
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DUHH!!! Thatís why Iím using XP.
Then keep using it, go away, and live happily ever.

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The piece does serve a purpose.
It doesn't, you are just letting some steam out. Address it to ubuntu devs, then it'll make some sense.

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Iíve seen angry people like you before who have issues with themselves who resort to hating others because others refuse to follow their beliefs.
And I"ve seen angry failed newbies who after failure of single distro decided to devote their whole life just to tell the world how bad linux is.

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I've tried to make ubuntu work, but it failed.
Then try another distro. And, sorry, I don't believe "I've tried" statements.

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Is it a crime to write about a systemís failure?
Your writing looks like a rant instead of piece of useful info.

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I donít like firefox. End of story.
Then live without flash. Or ask Adobe to support flash, or go bother opera developers. Choice is yours.

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If youíve never heard of banshee or songbird, then you shouldnít be critiquing me or anyone about something youíve made obvious that you know NOTHING about.
I have amarok and it is fast enough when playing mp3.
mp3 playback should be working without troubles on anything faster than 200mhz. What kind of machine do you have?

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I have...
Which ones?

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have you tried a psychiatrist?
No, it's not the job I'd like to take

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Use the search function and read about the myriads of users who complain about dual-boot.
I've beend dual-booting during many years and don't remember any serious problems. You'll avoid all trouble if you read documentation carefully enough.

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It is equally strange that it took so much time to realize that most people prefer windows.
I don't care. Most people arent experienced computer users, by the way, so for them it doesn't matter what is installed Linux, Windows, or whatever - they will be still unable unable to use it properly even for basic operations.

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Linux is trying to be windows since it has become gui.
Linux isn't trying anything. OS is being developed by people. So some people in some distribution are wasting their time to make windows from linux. Linux itself isn't doing it.

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I installed Vista on my machine. It works.
Then I congratulate you on another waste of your money.

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let me just say goodbye to your sister first.
Never had one. It must be someone else's.

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I do agree. Reinstalling ubuntu is stupid.
Then don't reinstall it.

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Youíre right. I donít like what they do... but, itís not my problem anymore! Itís yours now.... Bye bye!
It is still your problem. I'm using slackware and quite happy with it.

Let me explain. you took distribution for noobs, recommended to you by novice linux fanboy that probably hasn't passed the first 2months phase when user just has just discovered linux, found out that it is cool, and is currently very happy with it and is trying to make all friends switch distribution. You are also probably suffering from common delusion that linux is commercial software and it is trying to compete with something. The true situation is quite different. All operating systems are complete crap to the same extent but in different areas. If you found out that Vista is best for you, that is only because you haven't touched area where it is nightmare. Same apply to your obviously favorite win95 (why don't you stick with MS-DOS, by the way? it is fastest operating system so far) - it is fast, but, alas, your hardware isn't supported, as well as there are no multi CPU support. To use computer user should spend some time researching and find the one distribution or operating system that doesn't have "crap" in area of his own interests (programming, multimedia, etc). It might be anything. Now about linux. The common rules are following:
1) Distributions come without any warranty.
2) They are mostly non-commercial, so you are on your own.
3) Support is voluntary and is provided by users. That is why it makes sense to pick something "complicated", Gentoo or Slackware, instead of "disto for noobs" or something with flashy gui. You'll spend more time learning, but in the end you'll get solutions faster, because users are more experienced. To my experience, ubuntu suffers from the lack of power-users.
4) If you was unable to make it work, than it is entirely your fault. You are responsible for your choice of distribution, so you don't have anyone to blame except you, because in the beginning it was your idea. If you disagree, then someone will eventually point you out that many people use that thing and don't have your damn problem.
5) If you are disagree with anything of this, then your only right choice will be to leave, until someone will hit you with a door. Just kidding. But leaving without making too much noise, and understanding that every OS has its good or bad sides is a rare quality to be respected, shame you don't seem to have that quality. Rant-writers will be quickly ignored as fanboys or haters.

Now about your first post. Ubuntu doesn't work for you. So go try anything else, it didn't work for me either. Writing another rant is stupid. You placed your thread in the wrong category, so new users of this forum won't find it. Your "piece of art" is also unlikely to be found with search engines, at least because of the title. It isn't in a blog. So this means that you wrote it not because you care about newbies or welfare of humanity, but just because you wanted to let go some steam and draw public attention.

Now about contents of your post. If you tried one distribution and it doesn't work for you, try something else. If you haven't found anything suitable, then you haven't tried hard enough. And if failure of one distro makes you so upset, then computers are not for you.

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Ubuntu IS marketed as being a better Windows...
Now this is much better explanation, because it is without emotions and presents details. If OP did present his thought in similar way, then it wouldn't end in "throwing mud at each other". Don't get me wrong, but titles like "$SOMETHING - sucks!" make people think that author is another 14yr old idiot, and only provoke desire to blow up OP with good pile of TNT, instead of discussing anything.

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Old 11-11-2008, 10:01 AM   #93
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Everyone replying to DavidX, no need to bother - he has had a cooling off period applied to him and so won't be back to this thread for a while.
 
Old 11-11-2008, 12:20 PM   #94
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Hey .. guys .. its very interest to read this post .... How ever i see some comments here and there ..

I am not a Windows Fan, It doesn't mean that i don't like windows . I work on Linux , Windows XP , Windows Vista. I started using Linux 8 years back .. remember i bought my first computer 9 years back. I initially installed Mandrake 8.1 , but at that time it didn't give me much of what i was looking at, at that time i had a dual boot with Windows 98se.

And later i came into Fedora, and that's amazing. With the comparison of both Linux and Windows i found Linux more stable, reliable and durable. In fact i didn't count how many times i hit "don't sent" button for error reporting in Windows .

With XP i found many things that is good, But the problem came when i started installing servers , IDE ( like eclipse , netbeans ). It made my machine damn slow, I had 2 GB RAM.

If you are a user who just use MS-Office and kind of small application you can go with Windows. By if you think you have to do something , you need to know how thing work on machine, and also how you can make them stable, then i prefer Linux.

Now i am using Fedora 9. Its more stable , easy installation and easy use .

I ran Jboss server 4.2.0, eclipse 3.1 for Jboss ( j2ee application ) , netbeans .. its smooth and very cool and just take 600 MB of RAM isn't it incredible, remember i am also running compiz-fusion also.

Considering widows .... If i put a file to copy from one location to another and try opening an internet explorer , oh God .. i don't know what it is doing inside, it takes ages.

Initially i had some issues with the driver , but i was able to fix then soon and now you should the performance .. awesome .........

and remember i have 3 OS in both my machine you can check my signature for details.

No one forced anyone to use Linux, if someone done like it then just move on .. please done blame others.
it shows your ability how you can fix an issue.

In windows if i encounter an issue i just cant do anything .. anything ...
but in Linux i can do hundreds of things that helps me make things better and give more performance than windows.

and also considering the gaming environment , i find Linux gives more performance .

There are many points to write .. but most of them people already know about Linux ...

EDIT : Do anyone knows .. how many ideas or concepts windows have stolen from Linux and Solaris ... Ha Ha ha .... But Linux don't need to steal anything because it is being developed , used and supported by more than 30 million people around the Globe.

Thanks for reading ............Peeths

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Old 11-11-2008, 12:30 PM   #95
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All of the issues you stated about Ubuntu being crap sound like a personal problem.

I've ran Ubuntu on my laptop for years without ever having to re install.

Linux is a free lunch if you don't like the way it tastes don't eat it.
 
Old 11-11-2008, 12:41 PM   #96
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This thread is now closed because it has got a bit messy and it does not appear that it can get back on track.
 
  


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