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Old 09-05-2018, 11:41 PM   #1
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Ubuntu 18.04.1 Installation Issue


My Ubuntu 18.04.1 just won't install. It runs from a disk OK, I tell it to install and it takes forever and nothing ever happens. The install screen just does not change. I have tried re-booting, re-starting, let it run for 24 hours waiting for it to be installed but alas, it simply does not work. I also checked and verified and it says that my Ubuntu 18.04.1 .iso DVD image is OK and has no errors on it. I have 1 GB RAM and 141 GB hard drive's space available, the processor is i3 dual core. It looks like it is good enough for Ubuntu 18.04.1 to run isn't it? Could anybody advise please, why won't it install? For testing purposes I tried installing Ubuntu 12 (just picked it up at random) and it installed OK despite that fact that it is outdated. However, Ubuntu 18.04.1 just won't install. Any pointers / suggestions at all would be highly appreciated. Many thanks in advance!

P.S. Does Ubuntu 18 perhaps require only the latest processors to run? That's my wild guess as I am clueless pretty much...
 
Old 09-06-2018, 12:58 AM   #2
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My Ubuntu 18.04.1 just won't install. It runs from a disk OK, I tell it to install and it takes forever and nothing ever happens. The install screen just does not change. I have tried re-booting, re-starting, let it run for 24 hours waiting for it to be installed but alas, it simply does not work. I also checked and verified and it says that my Ubuntu 18.04.1 .iso DVD image is OK and has no errors on it. I have 1 GB RAM and 141 GB hard drive's space available, the processor is i3 dual core. It looks like it is good enough for Ubuntu 18.04.1 to run isn't it? Could anybody advise please, why won't it install? For testing purposes I tried installing Ubuntu 12 (just picked it up at random) and it installed OK despite that fact that it is outdated. However, Ubuntu 18.04.1 just won't install. Any pointers / suggestions at all would be highly appreciated. Many thanks in advance!

P.S. Does Ubuntu 18 perhaps require only the latest processors to run? That's my wild guess as I am clueless pretty much...
From the installation requirements:
  • For a Desktop installation, you should have 2GB RAM
  • For a server, a minimum of 256MB

Older software often doesn't "weigh" as much and runs well on older computers, which may explain why your old Ubuntu can be installed.

You say "The install screen just does not change". At which stage does it remain static?

And by the way, what do you mean by "It runs from a disk OK"? How did you get it onto that disk?

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Old 09-06-2018, 02:25 AM   #3
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Thank you for replying. I appreciate. Yes, I figured it out after I had posted the question. Well, what about Xubuntu? It says I will need only 512 MB RAM and 5 GB of my disk space. Will it work on my 1 GB RAM, 141 GB disk space, i3 dual core desktop? Not sure now because Ubuntu 12 installed OK and worked perfectly fine even though it also had the same minimum requirement of 2 GB RAM.

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You say "The install screen just does not change". At which stage does it remain static?
It says either try or install Ubuntu. That's it. It becomes unresponsive after I press either install or try.

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And by the way, what do you mean by "It runs from a disk OK"? How did you get it onto that disk?
This is very simple. You download your desired .iso image of Ubuntu version, burn it to a DVD disk, then insert this disk into your CD drive and reboot your computer from that DVD disk. That's it. It reboots into that, shows me the welcome screen, asks me whether I want to try or install Ubuntu and... that's the end of the story here as it goes dead.
 
Old 09-06-2018, 02:51 AM   #4
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if your machine has only 1GB RAM, may i assume that the CPU is equally outdated?
in that case i'd recommend to skip *buntu completely, and try a distro specifically designed for matured hardware.
AntiX being one, or yesterday i read good things about ToriOS. both can be found on distrowatch.com.
 
Old 09-06-2018, 03:32 AM   #5
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This is very simple. You download your desired .iso image of Ubuntu version, burn it to a DVD disk, then insert this disk into your CD drive and reboot your computer from that DVD disk. That's it. It reboots into that, shows me the welcome screen, asks me whether I want to try or install Ubuntu and... that's the end of the story here as it goes dead.
Sorry, when I hear "disk", I understand "hard disk". That's what confused me.

My feeling is that your computer is indeed too low-spec. Of course, another cause of your problem might be some device that the DVD is not prepared to drive, but as far as I understand it, installation DVDs use the lowest common denominator and should be able to deal with old hardware.

Why not trying Xubuntu or Lubuntu. The Ubuntu Desktop runs well on my credit-card-sized Odroid with its 2GB (admittedly, it's customized for it), so perhaps it's a matter of a few MB that you are missing.

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Old 09-06-2018, 04:06 AM   #6
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if your machine has only 1GB RAM, may i assume that the CPU is equally outdated?
in that case i'd recommend to skip *buntu completely, and try a distro specifically designed for matured hardware.
AntiX being one, or yesterday i read good things about ToriOS. both can be found on distrowatch.com.
Thank you for your input.

Well, it's an old machine all right that was just lying around idling and the one that I thought I would use as a back up now. However, it is capable of running both OS at the same time, the first one is Windows Vista and the second one is Ubuntu 12.04.3. The CPU is a bit outdated that's true but the machine performed really nicely and perfectly coped with its responsibilities. In fact, it is still very "cheerful" and kept its ages well to be put back to some light work.

What do you mean by matured hardware? Is that old / aged hardware?
 
Old 09-06-2018, 04:18 AM   #7
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Why not trying Xubuntu or Lubuntu. The Ubuntu Desktop runs well on my credit-card-sized Odroid with its 2GB (admittedly, it's customized for it), so perhaps it's a matter of a few MB that you are missing.
This is exactly what I said in my previous post. I will give Xubuntu a try.

Not sure if I go testing version by version just to see where it will stop responding. For example Ubuntu 12 is OK (tested), Ubuntu 13 is OK (tested), then Ubuntu 13... Because all of them require 2 GB RAM for desktop but some of them work on my 1 GB RAM and some do not.
 
Old 09-06-2018, 11:40 PM   #8
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...Xubuntu 18.04.1 is now asking me to make new partitions (swap and main). What is the size recommended for both? I have 1 GB RAM (physical memory) and 36 GB free space to choose from. Any pointers anyone, please? Many thanks!
 
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The normal Ubuntu requirements recommend a minimum of 25GB. I guess that Xubuntu needs less and you are OK although this will be tight. Given the small memory size, you should definitely configure swap. E.g. 30GB filesystem, 6GB swap. This is not based on my own experience though.

These are typical questions asked in forums. See for example https://askubuntu.com/questions/3337...ubuntu-desktop, though it's a few years old.
 
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A quick search for "xubuntu system requirements" shows that it recommends IGB RAM and 7.5GB for the root directory, but should work in 512MB RAM. 1GB for swap should be fine, in my experience.
 
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A quick search for "xubuntu system requirements" shows that it recommends IGB RAM and 7.5GB for the root directory, but should work in 512MB RAM. 1GB for swap should be fine, in my experience.
Thank you. However, I have already made this new swap to be 2 GB as per numerous general instructions and recommendations that I had browsed online. I found that the formula was "swap = 2 x physical memory". My memory is 1 GB so... it's 2 GB for my swap. Do you suggest I'd better change it to 1 GB?
 
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Do you suggest I'd better change it to 1 GB?
no, leave it as it is.
 
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I have some further WiFi trouble now. Xubuntu 18.04 just won't connect to WiFi. There are networks available all right, then I choose to connect and... nothing ever happens. It just hangs for about 30 seconds and says, "Disconnected - you are now offline". I tried connecting to my Wifi anew as to a hidden network where I entered my SSID, encryption type, password and... nothing ever happens again. It keeps on saying, "Disconnected - you are now offline". Although the Internet is working perfectly well when I connect Xubuntu through a cable (wired). I have another two machines and a couple of smart phones that do not have any problems connecting to this network (WiFi) in question. Could anybody advise, please? I am stuck and clueless again...

Here is some output. Is that perhaps this driver's version problem? In fact, there was a bug exactly on this found in Xubuntu 17.04. Was this bug by any chances "carried over" to Xubuntu 18.04 without being fixed wasn't it?

"sudo lshw -C network":

*-network
description: Wireless interface
product: BCM4311 802.11b/g WLAN
vendor: Broadcom Limited
physical id: 0
bus info: pci@0000:03:00.0
logical name: wlp3s0
version: 02
serial: 00:1a:73:b9:b8:70
width: 64 bits
clock: 33MHz
capabilities: pm msi pciexpress bus_master cap_list ethernet physical wireless
configuration: broadcast=yes driver=wl0 driverversion=6.30.223.271 (r587334) latency=0 multicast=yes wireless=IEEE 802.11
resources: irq:19 memory:f6000000-f6003fff

and "iwconfig" looks like this:

enp0s10 no wireless extensions.
lo no wireless extensions.
wlp3s0 IEEE 802.11 ESSIDff/any
Mode:Managed Access Point: Not-Associated
Retry short limit:7 RTS thr: off Fragment thr: off
Power Management: off
 
Old 09-09-2018, 03:40 AM   #14
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one of these search results should probably be enough:
https://www.startpage.com/do/dsearch...ubuntu+BCM4311

but if you want to troubleshoot this properly, please provide the infromation requested here: https://forums.bunsenlabs.org/viewtopic.php?id=24
 
Old 09-09-2018, 06:38 AM   #15
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Right. I simply followed the instructions here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wi...Driver/bcm43xx and installed the BCM4311 driver over my existing BCM4311 driver. The problem is solved. Hope the link will help someone out as well. It has all the info you may need to troubleshoot and fix your Linux's WiFi issues. I am not sure why Xubuntu's 18.04 right out of the box drivers come out outdated... The trouble could've been somewhere else as well though.
 
  


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