Trying to install some software (for godssake)

mazerunner · 12-09-2017, 01:30 PM

Hi everyone.

I am trying to install this software: Lingua

In order to do so, I see that I need to install:

OpenJDK ≥6u10
Ant
Antlr3
JOptSimple≥4.5.3
Java-Gnome (libjava-gnome-java & libjava-gnome-jni) ≥ 4.1.2

And indeed, trying the commands that would install Lingua, I get an error about Ant. So, I downloaded Ant from here, copy it in the home directory, extract it, and then I find these installation instructions.

Something is telling me that it's going to be a long long road to install that damn Lingua. Most probably I will give up before the end, but for the time being I keep trying.

Now, I need to figure out how to set all these environment variables.

Before that a simple question. After installation, is the program going to be used from this directory, where it got extracted? Because now it's in my /home and I don't like to see it there. I don't want my /home to get full of directories from extracted stuff like that.

What is customary? where do we put a program we extract in order to install it?

John VV · 12-09-2017, 04:15 PM

well if we do not know your operating system then all we can tell you is to build all and every prerequisite and all the prerequisite of the prerequisite from source

a pain in the rear end

use your PACKAGE MANAGER to install software

for debian use "apt-get"
for a redhat based os use yum or dnf ( fedora only)

mazerunner · 12-09-2017, 05:38 PM

Hi John. I use Linux Mint 18.3 "Sylvia" - Cinnamon (64-bit).

For all I know Lingua is not available through the Software Manager but you were right. Ant, Antlr3 and openjdk-9 were there and I installed them.

JOptSimple and Java-Gnome didn't show up when I searched for them.

So I tried once again to make that Lingua but got errors:

Code:

compile:
    [javac] /home/myUserName/Προγράμματα/glossa-interpreter-1.0.8/build.xml:29: warning: 'includeantruntime' was not set, defaulting to build.sysclasspath=last; set to false for repeatable builds
    [javac] Compiling 81 source files to /home/myUserName/Προγράμματα/glossa-interpreter-1.0.8/build
    [javac] /home/myUserName/Προγράμματα/glossa-interpreter-1.0.8/src/glossa/Main.java:40: error: package joptsimple does not exist
    [javac] import joptsimple.OptionException;
    [javac]                  ^
    [javac] /home/myUserName/Προγράμματα/glossa-interpreter-1.0.8/src/glossa/Main.java:41: error: package joptsimple does not exist
    [javac] import joptsimple.OptionParser;
    [javac]                  ^
    [javac] /home/myUserName/Προγράμματα/glossa-interpreter-1.0.8/src/glossa/Main.java:42: error: package joptsimple does not exist
    [javac] import joptsimple.OptionSet;
    [javac]                  ^
    [javac] /home/myUserName/Προγράμματα/glossa-interpreter-1.0.8/src/glossa/Main.java:43: error: package joptsimple does not exist
    [javac] import joptsimple.OptionSpec;
    [javac]                  ^
    [javac] /home/myUserName/Προγράμματα/glossa-interpreter-1.0.8/src/glossa/Main.java:64: error: cannot find symbol
    [javac]         OptionParser parser = new OptionParser("hVif:");
    [javac]         ^
    [javac]   symbol:   class OptionParser
    [javac]   location: class Main
    [javac] /home/myUserName/Προγράμματα/glossa-interpreter-1.0.8/src/glossa/Main.java:64: error: cannot find symbol
    [javac]         OptionParser parser = new OptionParser("hVif:");
    [javac]                                   ^
    [javac]   symbol:   class OptionParser
    [javac]   location: class Main
    [javac] /home/myUserName/Προγράμματα/glossa-interpreter-1.0.8/src/glossa/Main.java:65: error: cannot find symbol
    [javac]         OptionSpec<String> remainingArgs = parser.nonOptions().ofType( String.class );
    [javac]         ^
    [javac]   symbol:   class OptionSpec
    [javac]   location: class Main
    [javac] /home/myUserName/Προγράμματα/glossa-interpreter-1.0.8/src/glossa/Main.java:68: error: cannot find symbol
    [javac]             OptionSet options = parser.parse(arguments);
    [javac]             ^
    [javac]   symbol:   class OptionSet
    [javac]   location: class Main
    [javac] /home/myUserName/Προγράμματα/glossa-interpreter-1.0.8/src/glossa/Main.java:101: error: cannot find symbol
    [javac]         } catch (OptionException uoe) {
    [javac]                  ^
    [javac]   symbol:   class OptionException
    [javac]   location: class Main
    [javac] Note: /home/myUserName/Προγράμματα/glossa-interpreter-1.0.8/src/glossa/external/ExternalSubprograms.java uses unchecked or unsafe operations.
    [javac] Note: Recompile with -Xlint:unchecked for details.
    [javac] 9 errors

BUILD FAILED
/home/myUserName/Προγράμματα/glossa-interpreter-1.0.8/build.xml:29: Compile failed; see the compiler error output for details.

Total time: 3 seconds
Makefile:25: recipe for target 'all' failed
make: *** [all] Error 1

John VV · 12-09-2017, 05:58 PM

this link explains your errors

https://github.com/cyberpython/gloss...reter/releases
the last update was 2014
https://github.com/cyberpython/glossa-interpreter

that error looked like a too NEW version of the compiler is being used on OLD software
-- and it is --

install a older version of gcc and Python
and have fun ( as in, a pain in the rear end fun. )

but USE caution

you have to install the older gcc and python in a "side by side" install

a question

Is this a MUST USE program ?
it is 4 years out of date and UNSUPPORTED

mazerunner · 12-10-2017, 01:15 AM

Well, it would be just great to have it but this is where I stop.

Do you think I should de-install all the extra sofware I installed to make this one work?

Thanks

ondoho · 12-10-2017, 03:54 AM

what does Lingua do?

maybe alternatives exist?

mazerunner · 12-10-2017, 04:10 AM

It's a very specific educational pseudocode environment. There is one alternative for windows that can run under wine. I might go for that one. I don't see that I can avoid wine eventually.

Mill J · 12-10-2017, 10:46 AM

Mint seems to be one of the harder Linux os to build software from source. I prefer something a little less bloated such as salix, arch, puppy,etc.

Remember where there is a will there is a way. I'd set up another install of Linux(either virtual box or dual boot) with the right compiler etc.

If you actually do get this software built, let us know in case someone else has that problem too.

Have Fun!

John VV · 12-10-2017, 10:57 AM

i also tend to forget that i have been building from source for most of the software is use since 2005

it can be intimidating at first

i like to use Gimp as a example for new and new'ish users

it is SO WELL documented and there are so many guides for the parts that it needs
and using a "custom" install location and a "config.site", a short text file pointing autotools to that custom install location .

it might be a bit hard at first but within a few months of building even SMALL programs and games it really dose get easier

-- MOSTLY , even for experts there are a few things that are a ROYAL pain in the rear end

DavidMcCann · 12-10-2017, 11:35 AM

Surely the problem is that you didn't install JOptSimple and Java-Gnome. As shown in your original post, Java-Gnome is equivalent tp libjava-gnome-java and libjava-gnome-jni: did you try to install those two from Mint? JOptSimple seems to be missing even from Debian, but you can get it here
http://sourceforge.net/projects/jopt-simple/

mazerunner · 12-10-2017, 05:28 PM

@John VV, I wouldn't like to downgrade Python etc. because I'm sure, next thing I know will be that some other program. Especially when it seems like all this is going to be a tough task (but then, isn't just everything in the Linux world?)

@DavidMcCann, is it obvious that Java-Gnome is equivalent to libjava-gnome-java and libjava-gnome-jni? I feel stupid already. I searched for the two (libjava-gnome-java and libjava-gnome-jni) with the manager but nothing comes up. Then I downloaded JOptSimple from the link you provided. And then what?

Anyway, forget about it. Thanks for trying to help. I really appreciate it but I'm already way too frustrated to get on with this impossible task. I think it might prove undoable to actually get all the programs I need, on my laptop.

I will have to learn how to use Wine. See if I have more luck there.

mazerunner · 12-10-2017, 05:45 PM

Indeed, I installed that other Windows program under wine-el, which I understand is a wine variant that seeks to solve some problem wine has with greek characters. It seems to work, eventhought the look and feel is kind of ugly.

Now, I will have to study about wine a little.

Mill J · 12-10-2017, 07:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mazerunner

I wouldn't like to downgrade Python etc. because I'm sure, next thing I know will be that some other program. Especially when it seems like all this is going to be a tough task (but then, isn't just everything in the Linux world?)

Anyway, forget about it. Thanks for trying to help. I really appreciate it but I'm already way too frustrated to get on with this impossible task. .

I have two versions of python running on my LFS. And no not everything is tough on Linux(have you ever compiled something on Windows?) and no this is not impossible. but do as you wish that is the best thing about Linux.