tring to install java plugin for mozilla on mandrakelinux 10.1. any ideas

camladuk · 04-28-2006, 05:08 AM

Hi there people, i'm trying to install a java plugin for the mozilla firefox web browser, but i'm having trouble finding one. What i want to do is to chat to people on java chat facilities like i did in windows, but i'm affraid to say it's not looking promising!!

I was hoping it would be simple enough to do this, as i have just ported accross to linux from windows and have JUST about had the end of my teathers. (i'm thinking of turning back to the dark side again, even if it means shedding out £85 for an xp pro copy.)

Any help with this matter would go such a mile, but please do take into account i am a new user and have no knowladgwe about linux at all or about the non GUI version of mandrakelinux.

for your information i run a 10.1 version on a celeron 2.53gig machine with 256MB ram on 2700mhz, two 40GB hdd's, intel 845 extreeme graphics with 64 MB allocateed ram(not shared now) and a 10/100 intel NIC.

hope this helps.

tony wares
(aka camladuk)

camorri · 04-28-2006, 10:29 AM

Have a look here as a starting point.

https://pfs.mozilla.org/plugins/

There is a link to Sun, to download Java runtime. There are also instructions on how to install and test.

Post back if you need help with the installation.

camladuk · 04-28-2006, 01:40 PM

HI there, Thanks for the link, allthough i AM having problems installing it. If you can let me know some instalation instructions, that would be so much better for me. thanks, tony. (aka camladuk)

when i click "launch file" in the download manager, nothing happens. a sat and waited for it for over half an hour thinking i might just need a little bit of time and nothing ever did happen.

can you please help, i may sound stupid, but i'm just a beginner see.

thank once again for your anticipated helpfullnes. tony.

camorri · 04-29-2006, 10:05 AM

O.K. I'll see if I can guide you through this.

Here are the instructions from the web site.

Code:

   1. Install Java Runtime Environment.
   2. Make a symbolic link to libjavaplugin_oji.so in your Mozilla Plugins directory. Unless you are using an old version of Mozilla, or one you compiled yourself with gcc 2.9x, use the copy located in the plugin/i386/ns7 directory of JRE 5.0, or plugin/i386/ns610-gcc32 if you are using JRE 1.4.2.

Important! Do not copy the plugin to your plugins directory. If you do, Mozilla will crash any time you attempt to view a page containing a Java applet.
Note: Java Runtime Environment 5.0 (1.5.0) has been released. This update fixes many problems that users are having with Java. Upgrading is highly recommended.
Note: The instructions listed here are for the Sun Java Runtime Environment. Other Java Runtime Environments, such as those available from IBM and the Blackdown project, can also be used with Mozilla.

Step 1 is explained here, at this link.

http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.5.0/install-linux.html

The symlink is the only tricky part. Have a look at the man page for symlinks. A nice way to look at man pages is through Konqueror. So launch konqueror, and in the location bar where you type URL's, type 'man:/symlinks' without the quotes.

Let me know if you need more guidance.

camladuk · 04-29-2006, 02:31 PM

hi cliff, thanks for all the advice. At this moment, i am considering weither to go back to windows, as the instalation has come to a horrible halt!!

The instalation instructions all seam ver hard to understand and at the moment i don't know enough about linux to warrent me using it for the fisrt time.

At least with windows it was a lot easier to install software.

tony (AKA camladuk)

camorri · 04-30-2006, 07:20 AM

It is always interesting how people look at linux.

Quote:

At least with windows it was a lot easier to install software.

A java plugin is not so easy to install, you do need some command line stuff. However, most packages with Mandriva, I find much easier to install than windoze.

Once you have Mandirva installed, you need to setup URPMI, the package manager. This part is not too difficult, since most of the hard part is looked after by Easy-URPMI, a web based tool used to set up the media. Once that is done, all you need to do is decide what you want installed, select the package(s) from URMPI ( gui based ) and click install - a few minutes later its done, including dependencies. There are thousands of packages to choose from.

You don't have to find a CD, or buy one. The best part is there is no longer a Windoze Registery. Part of what drove me away from Windoze was the registry. Windoze software is notorious for adding stuff, and when you upgrade, or remove not fixing up this undocumented mess.

Yes linux taks some learning at first, but once done, it is well worth the effort.

camladuk · 04-30-2006, 09:12 PM

So are u saying that the java plugin can be installed from the URPMI thingy?

if so, that would make the process so much easier!!

Yes i do see the benefits of linux, and expecially mandrake, but like i say, i don't know enough about it yet to warrent using it. I guess i was boled over by being able to host my site myself now with linux rather than paying through the noce for someone to make a huge proffit on my custom.

Oh wel, i think i better buy a few hundred books on mandrake and sit for a few months and read up about it, before i do anything else, or i could get myself very wound up!

thanks guys, you've been brilliant!!!!

camladuk (tony)

camorri · 05-01-2006, 10:37 AM

Quote:

So are u saying that the java plugin can be installed from the URPMI thingy?

No, as far as I know, you have to get java from Sun and install it. Sun owns the product, and does distribute it for no charge, but they maintain control. So the bad news is, you have to install it as I described above.

My comments on software install are more general.

A few hundred books? My recomondation is to use it when you can and take one problem at a time, learn form it, and continue on. If you happen to come across a 'good book' on Mandriva, post it, I would be interested too.