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05-01-2014, 07:26 AM
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i am using thunderbird with 7 imap accounts from 5 email providers. eat that.
i have been using thunderbird on windows as well as on linux. for years.
i think it's an outrage on behalf of TB developers that it stopped working the moment that maclindroid started using it. they must have done this on purpose with the intent of harming you, maclindroid!
the same obviously goes for claws mail and evolution.
i'd sue them if i were you! you probably have very important business to attend to, and they are deliberately wasting your time
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Your sarcasm does not earn you any points here. I have been using Thunderbird for years on various platform and even on a USB flash drive, with success. As it becomes more polished, it also becomes less reliable. Some of the much older versions worked extremely well, if only I could still find it somewhere.
Perhaps, instead of being sarcastic, help think where the problems with these software apps are, so it can be fixed. Enough users have complained about similar issues ever since 2008, so I am not alone in this. It means that there is a fairly general issue that does affect users and should be fixed.
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05-01-2014, 07:40 AM
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Your sarcasm does not earn you any points here. I have been using Thunderbird for years on various platform and even on a USB flash drive, with success. As it becomes more polished, it also becomes less reliable. Some of the much older versions worked extremely well, if only I could still find it somewhere.
Perhaps, instead of being sarcastic, help think where the problems with these software apps are, so it can be fixed. Enough users have complained about similar issues ever since 2008, so I am not alone in this. It means that there is a fairly general issue that does affect users and should be fixed.
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i don't understand you.
i'm about the first person in this thread sympathetic to your issue and you're calling me sarcastic?
no, i honestly think you should take a look at the source code of those older versions, compare it to the newer versions and then start fixing it.
because i can totally see your point.
you should also make contact to some of the other users concerned, maybe together you can send a petition or even take legal action.
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05-01-2014, 08:14 AM
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I am not a programmer and I also cannot inspect and troubleshoot code. I can build computers, install & tweak applications and OS'es, build networks, put power supply and backup systems in place, even set up an email account, but I cannot write programmes. I did develope a few apps in Dbase III+ and Quattro Pro ages ago, but that was amateur stuff before strokes and memory issues (mine, not the computer's).
Sorry if I musinderstood your mood here: TB developers that it stopped working the moment that maclindroid started using it. they must have done this on purpose with the intent of harming you, maclindroid!
If I could programme, I would have written an app to sync my phone with my computer (PIM data) via USB. I have noted that my USB cable is about two feet long but, when I still used Apple, the return route for data between my phone and my macbook was 42,000km!
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05-01-2014, 08:51 AM
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I would have written an app to sync my phone with my computer (PIM data) via USB. I have noted that my USB cable is about two feet long but, when I still used Apple, the return route for data between my phone and my macbook was 42,000km!
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that's quite a long usb cable.
anyhow, yes, you should write that app!!!
i would also be very interested in it.
why don't you write it in Dbase III+ and Quattro Pro?
sounds like you have plenty of experience and knowledge of the deep workings of email clients and such.
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05-01-2014, 08:55 AM
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that's quite a long usb cable.
anyhow, yes, you should write that app!!!
i would also be very interested in it.
why don't you write it in Dbase III+ and Quattro Pro?
sounds like you have plenty of experience and knowledge of the deep workings of email clients and such.
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DbaseIII+ and Quattro Pro cannot be used for that. I last used Dbase in 1991 and Quattro Pro in 1998. I think that it takes more than my DIY layman's skills to write such an app!
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05-01-2014, 09:06 AM
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DbaseIII+ and Quattro Pro cannot be used for that. I last used Dbase in 1991 and Quattro Pro in 1998. I think that it takes more than my DIY layman's skills to write such an app!
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well, so what ARE you going to do about these faulty linux email clients?
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05-01-2014, 09:15 AM
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well, so what ARE you going to do about these faulty linux email clients?
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My hope is that someone who CAN do something reads posts like these and then act. Meanwhile, a compromise between webmail and erratic mail clients, while switching between working cellular towers in the area.............
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05-01-2014, 09:59 AM
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My hope is that someone who CAN do something reads posts like these and then act.
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but why should they act if they don't have the problem?
they wouldn't even know what to change, let alone getting paid for it.
so far you didn't even bother to give a proper description of what your problem is, and it's very hard to live on negative and imprecise feedback, let alone build code on it (and, i say it again, where would the motivation for that be?).
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05-01-2014, 03:13 PM
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Some of the much older versions worked extremely well, if only I could still find it somewhere.
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Ta da!
http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.o...bird/releases/
0.1/ 13-Jan-2004 19:14
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29.0b1/ 24-Apr-2014 15:07
Maybe you should check out an ESR release?
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05-02-2014, 05:56 AM
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Two things:
It stops looking for email - I said this right at the beginning.
It does not accept SSL connections that all other mail clients accept. It wants to change server settings, rename my mail server and then the mail sever doesn't understand Thunderbird's authentication. Only open connections on ports 110/143/25 are accepted by Thunderbird.
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05-02-2014, 09:29 AM
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habitual gave you a link to a directory with ALL thunderbird versions from the last 10 years.
i am sure you can find that favorite of yours from there.
the one that is doing exactly what you want.
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05-02-2014, 09:33 AM
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I will be doing so, yes, meanwhile mine started behaving itself when I removed my IMAP accounts and created new POP accounts. I think that the problem may possibly lie with how it handles IMAP? I vaguely remember that others also complained about this when using IMAP. To someone with the technical expertise, this could provide a clue, possibly.
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05-02-2014, 09:38 AM
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Thanks and I think I am going to sift through my old DVD's and recover some real old portable Windows versions and see how they perform using Wine. You will see below that it seems that the problem could possibly be IMAP-related.
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05-02-2014, 09:49 AM
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I have just come across a few posts and this one is in keeping with my notion that my Linux Firewall ufw could possibly be a factor but I have not given it any proper thought as I also will need to read up quite a bit. Here is how someone had trouble with McAfee under Windows 7.
More mention of firewalls. That user has two firewalls (that could conflict) but here is his story.
Another with IMAP.
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05-02-2014, 10:04 AM
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One would not mind to pay something but then it needs to work first. It already is costly just to get the freeware working as it should.
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