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Old 04-20-2014, 12:47 PM   #1
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Thunderbird goes idle


I just love Thunderbird but it seems the loyalte is not reciprocal. It works fine when only one email account is in use but goes "inactive" as soon as two or more IMAP accounts are set up. It simply stops checking for new emails.

I am forced to use Claws alongside; it does not offer a user friendly interface and is quirky. I would love to find a tweak or a fix for Thunderbird instead.

Mine is ver 24.2.0

I am on Mint 15 Olivia 32-bit Cinnamon and everything is up to date.
 
Old 04-21-2014, 12:28 AM   #2
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I only use Pop3 accounts and not IMAP so I can't guarantee the server settings are the same for both. Open up T-bird and on the left-hand column right-click on the folder of the email address you're interested in configuring (both should be there). The last item is called Settings.... Click on that. A new window opens called Account Settings. Click on that and then a fresh window appears with a menu in the left column. Click on Server Settings. You will see an item with a check box (on the right hand side) under the rubric Server Settings which says, Check for new messages every ___ minutes. Set that to the number of minutes you want and all should be well.
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Old 04-21-2014, 12:53 AM   #3
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I don't want to be rude but one has to anticipate that the settings have been done correctly. It is the program that has a bug and it has been like this for years, with no improvement. I am complaining about having to live with this kind of deficiency amidst a world of IT geeks & guru's. Why does it have to be buggy and don't get fixed?

A fairly new graduate who had been rendering support to a number of corporate clients recently mentioned a similar experience with some of his clients and moved them to Windows in aid to use Outlook.

Others experience the same - do a quick search and you will see that this is a very common issue.

http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewto...f=39&t=2623631

http://www.makeuseof.com/answers/why...-can-i-fix-it/

https://getsatisfaction.com/mozilla_...ading_messages

http://www.techsupportforum.com/foru...ng-307806.html

And how is this problem solved? By restarting the friggen computer every time
 
Old 04-21-2014, 12:58 AM   #4
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They will eventually download, sometimes as much as five days later. While Thunderbird is running and somebody emails me, those download right away.
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I don't want to be rude but one has to anticipate that the settings have been done correctly. It is the program that has a bug and it has been like this for years, with no improvement. I am complaining about having to live with this kind of deficiency amidst a world of IT geeks & guru's. Why does it have to be buggy and don't get fixed?
Nor do I. Perhaps you can explain why this bug is somewhat selective. As I stated above, I have not experienced this bug and I'm sure I'm not unique in this regard. The geeks & gurus are not gods. They do their best and I greatly appreciate the job they do. I even try to make a (very modest) contribution to that work in the rare occasions I am able to do so.
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Old 04-21-2014, 07:13 AM   #6
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Nor do I. Perhaps you can explain why this bug is somewhat selective. As I stated above, I have not experienced this bug and I'm sure I'm not unique in this regard. The geeks & gurus are not gods. They do their best and I greatly appreciate the job they do. I even try to make a (very modest) contribution to that work in the rare occasions I am able to do so.
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I really do not anticipate any USER to know why the bug is selective. Ask that question to the programmers, just in case they might know. Seemingly, as it is an old and known issue, even they, the professionals, have no answers,
 
Old 04-27-2014, 03:31 PM   #7
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Hi there,

what a pity that you're not posting usable links. I still don't know what the problem is, and I would've appreciated one or the other explanation or description in addition to yours.

Fact is, I've been using T-Bird for years with two IMAP accounts configured - about the same setup on three PCs. And it has never failed me so far. So I guess the problem must be connected with a particular setting or a particular combination of settings, and I hoped to recognize a pattern by reading multiple reports of the issue.

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Hi there,



what a pity that you're not posting usable links. I still don't know what the problem is, and I would've appreciated one or the other explanation or description in addition to yours.

Fact is, I've been using T-Bird for years with two IMAP accounts configured - about the same setup on three PCs. And it has never failed me so far. So I guess the problem must be connected with a particular setting or a particular combination of settings, and I hoped to recognize a pattern by reading multiple reports of the issue.

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The inability of Linux to provide a proper, effectively functional equivalent of MS Outlook will eventually send me back to Windows. I wish I did have a more useful link to post. All I could do was to prove that the problem does exist and that it has been experienced over a long period. This is to show that it is a general, known issue and not an isolated or fringe case.
 
Old 04-27-2014, 03:45 PM   #9
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Fact is, I've been using T-Bird for years with two IMAP accounts configured...And it has never failed me...
ditto.
 
Old 04-27-2014, 03:48 PM   #10
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It serves absolutely no purpose stating that it works for you. It clogs up the thread and, when a solution is found, others with similar issues get discouraged by reading through a lot of OPINIONS instead of finding A SOLUTION. Stick to generally accepted forum protocol by posting what is relevant, please.
 
Old 04-28-2014, 08:15 AM   #11
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"Check for new messages every..." is set to what on each account?
Is it check marked (enabled)? (Edit > Account Settings > Server Settings)
Is the value low enough to prove sufficient?
What addons are installed?
Have you tried starting with addons disabled?
Have you tried a completely new profile for each IMAP account?

Perhaps your expectation of what Thunderbird should be is the real issue?
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The inability of Linux to provide a proper, effectively functional equivalent of MS Outlook will eventually send me back to Windows.
Thunderbird is NOT a "functional equivalent of MS Outlook", it is a functional alternative to MS Outlook.

Your problem with a function of it is the exception and not the rule and you shouldn't piss and moan about volunteers offering guidance and help.
This isn't Burger King.
 
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"Check for new messages every..." is set to what on each account?
Is it check marked (enabled)? (Edit > Account Settings > Server Settings)
Is the value low enough to prove sufficient?
What addons are installed?
Have you tried starting with addons disabled?
Have you tried a completely new profile for each IMAP account?

Perhaps your expectation of what Thunderbird should be is the real issue?


Thunderbird is NOT a "functional equivalent of MS Outlook", it is a functional alternative to MS Outlook.

Your problem with a function of it is the exception and not the rule and you shouldn't piss and moan about volunteers offering guidance and help.
This isn't Burger King.
I have spent 30+ years in financial management with ICT as a secondary function, as was needed because of a lack of skilled professionals. I have said it before: I do not come here until I have checked the obvious. By the time that I come here, I have exhausted all options.

Your attitude is typical of the Linux guru's: "you get it free so enjoy tasting sh%t."

The reason why Linux's penetration is a fraction of the global IT footprint, is because developers deliver something that obviously had been giving the same errors since at least 2008.....and do you expect from us to PAY for that?

Thunderbird will only become an alternative when it can be compared with Outlook on a 1:1 basis. I am alerting the Linux developers here about a problem, that others may deem futile, as we have all been hit hard on the knuckles by some guru lurking in the depths of a tomb, to lash out at the romantic idiot coming up the mountain for help. He gets zapped so he leaves in a hurry, proclaiming vehemently in public what a terrible bunch of heartless autocrats the geeky guru's are; so they rather pirate XP or 7 Ultimate than migrating to Linux where there is a need for growth.

There are the wiser ones who approach things differently: Vinodh the Ubuntu guy from South Africa, also his "colleague" who develops Makululinix, then there is the ever-friendly Wolfman at Zorin. Linux need more people like that and less sissies who cannot stand a bit of criticism aimed at a software bug, which they take as a personal assault! OK, the offended ones: are you proving that you are bugs by lashing out at me?

It peeves me endlessly to be dealing with people who firstly assume that I am way too stupid to check basic settings, then go on to wet themselves because I alerted the Linux forum about an OBVIOUS FLAW in Thunderbird!!!

If the developers are serious about their product, then follow the links and try find what is wrong, then try to fix it.

I have been doing VOLUNTARY HUMANITARIAN WORK for fifteen years, while being disabled myself, with no income and also no payment for my contribution towards humanity. I have been doing this in an environment where most of you would be too scared to set foot, literally. The fact that I do not get paid does not deduct from my responsibility to deliver my absolute best. And, if a problem comes up, I need to confront the problem, not shoot the messenger!!!!!

 
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Thanks for the compliment

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and do you expect from us to PAY for that?
Pay for what? Thunderbird is a free product.

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Yeah, name calling helps.
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are you proving that you are bugs by lashing out at me?
I did no such thing.

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It peeves me endlessly to be dealing with people who firstly assume that I am way too stupid to check basic settings, then go on to wet themselves because I alerted the Linux forum about an OBVIOUS FLAW in Thunderbird!!!
Obvious flaw? Is every user of 24.2.0 on on Mint 15 Olivia 32-bit Cinnamon affected?

Sometimes, it is the obvious.
I recently spent 2 weeks looking for missing smtp data in zabbix, only to find out I had a filter set on "Latest Data" and let me tell you, I felt like a complete ass when I had it pointed out to me by the author of zabbix. 20 years in IT and I did what?

You seem to have a chip on your shoulder.
I'm sorry your so irritated.
 
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The inability of Linux to provide a proper, effectively functional equivalent of MS Outlook ...
I understand that Evolution claims to be a near drop-in replacement for Outlook.

But the question is: Do we really want an equivalent to Outlook?
Well, I don't. Because Outlook is a mediocre mail client, an appointment calendar and a contact list - all of which it does fairly well, but none of them really satisfactorily.

What I want is a mail client, and a really good one, while I can easily do without the other functions. That's why T-Bird is a perfect alternative for me. It's a well-engineered mature mail client and has none of the crap that Outlook is laden with. Plus, it's almost infinitely extensible for those who still miss some functionality.

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i am using thunderbird with 7 imap accounts from 5 email providers. eat that.
i have been using thunderbird on windows as well as on linux. for years.

i think it's an outrage on behalf of TB developers that it stopped working the moment that maclindroid started using it. they must have done this on purpose with the intent of harming you, maclindroid!
the same obviously goes for claws mail and evolution.
i'd sue them if i were you! you probably have very important business to attend to, and they are deliberately wasting your time.
 
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