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Old 11-11-2003, 06:03 PM   #1
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text with the gimp


the text i add to an image through the gimp appears fine when it apperas in its digital state on my monitor

but blurred when printed

when i zoom in on the pic in the gimp, i can see shaded of the color of the text around the text
this has something to do with anti-alising

what can i do to blend the text and its "shadow" to make it print clearly?
 
Old 11-11-2003, 07:38 PM   #2
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Text done is a graphics program will always look bad. Even photoshop on windows / mac prints text horribly. Thats why designers always use Pagemaker or Quark to do graphic design work with text. So there really isn't much you're gonna be able to do.
 
Old 11-11-2003, 07:55 PM   #3
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is there a linux based solution?
 
Old 11-11-2003, 08:38 PM   #4
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Maybe try this http://web2.altmuehlnet.de/fschmid/about.html
I've never used it, but it seems like a good solution.
 
Old 11-12-2003, 05:22 PM   #5
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im having a lot of trouble getting that to work with stilus
or scribus
or whatever its called

is there an easier solution
-or-
how would i go about doing this with stilus/scibus?
 
Old 11-13-2003, 04:51 PM   #6
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bump
..anyone?
 
Old 11-14-2003, 08:08 PM   #7
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bump on day 3

someone has to know...
 
Old 11-16-2003, 09:00 AM   #8
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ok im still not gettin this

im looking for an imaging program that works with text

i really cant even make out what scribus is

what is it and how do i use it
or
is there another solution?
 
Old 11-18-2003, 02:59 PM   #9
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somebody has to know something

ive been bumping for the past week now...
 
Old 11-18-2003, 05:13 PM   #10
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Scribus is about the same as Quark

Yep, somebody came along that knew that.

Whew, I helped somebody today.

Oh, it's on Mandrake CDs, don't know about Redhat. It may be though. I would look.

Later

 
Old 11-19-2003, 04:18 PM   #11
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...yes i realize that

but how does that type of software work
im having trouble even figuring out what it is
 
Old 11-19-2003, 05:51 PM   #12
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If you have never used Quark, you are in for a experience. It is a bit hard to understand at first but once you get over that learning curve, you won't want to use anything else that you can do with Scribus.

I have used Quark for a long time and taught myself.

You need to know that Scribus and Quark are object oriented. Everything is a text box or a picture box. Across the very top is the menu bar. It has file, edit, style etc. Below that is the bar that contains a shortcut bar for new, save, open etc. Those will be used like any other app. It also can save as a .pdf file if you want.

The next bar is to the right of the shortcut bar and below the Menu bar. It contains a select tool, looks like a + with arrows on each end. Next is the rotate tool, then the edit tool, looks like a hand and cursor, then the zoom button, then the text box tool, then the picture box tool. Those will get you by for the moment. Always remember the undo function and save often.

When you open Scribus, start a new Document. Then click on the Picture box tool. Put the mouse pointer somewhere in the part that is inside the blue lines. Press the left button on the mouse and drag to make the box then release. You can resize it latter. Right click inside the box and chose 'get picture'. Navigate till you get your picture and click OK.

Then right click again and select 'modify'. Then selct any options you need. I usually select 'Scale Picture to frame size'. That will fit the picture to the size box you make. 'Keep aspect ratio' prevents it from stretching the picture. Background is usually set to 'none'. Click 'apply' to preview. Click OK when done.

Now for the text. Click on the text box tool. Do the same thing as the picture and draw a box. Do not put it on top of the picture yet. Save that for last. After you get the text box drawn then select the edit tool and left click in the text box. Type what you want to put in there. You can change colors and fonts etc under the Style menu. When you are done putting in your text, right click and make sure you make the background 'none'. It will be like the text is on glass.

When you get the text like you want, select the 'select tool' and left click on the text box and hold it down then drag the box till the text is where you want it.

You can resize a box by selecting the box with the select tool and then putting the pointer on the edges of the box. It will turn into a resize thingy then left clcik and drag to the size you want and release.

You should be able to print it then.

You will get used to this thing after a while. You just have to play with it. This will get you off to a good start though.

So you will know, this is the same type of software that newspapers and magizines use. It is a very powerful tool. i would hate to be the programmer on this project.

Post back if you need help.

I printed one earlier just to make sure it was OK, it looked great. Just like a magazine or something, color and all.

Later

 
Old 11-19-2003, 07:33 PM   #13
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the Gimp can do just fine with text. The problem you are facing is probably due more to resolution than anything else. Your monitor is maybe 1024x768 while a 4x5 image on a decent printer (600 dpi or better) is 2400x3000

in other words, make sure your original image is in a resolution for printing and then text put on it should look OK.

The only way to get around this is to use a vector drawing program rather than a pixel drawing program.
 
Old 11-20-2003, 03:47 PM   #14
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hmm
got any names of vector drawing programs?
..ill google it in a min

and with scribus
i was able to get it to print rather nicely
the only thing is that im trying to make business cards (using glabels to print)
is there any way i can turn this scribus page into an image?
or can i print business cards directly from it?

and
dalek: thanks for the essay
 
Old 11-20-2003, 05:00 PM   #15
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business cards, vector drawing programs -

tried Open Office? The draw program has a nifty text manipulator and the writer program can law out imbedded draw results for output on common printers.
 
  


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