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Old 07-06-2015, 07:48 PM   #1
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Sylpheed: font & background color same


I use Lubuntu 14.04 (lxde, openbox) and sylpheed 3.4.0 beta 7. After switching my system to
Code:
Start Button   >   Preferences   >   Customize Look and Feel   >   Widget   >   Nodoka-Midnight
I then notice how for incoming messages with attachments in Sylpheed, while in the Text tab view of the message, the attachment boxes' background is the exact same color as its font (attached). I have already changed the font color in the aforesaid system "Customize Look and feel > font", and still no change, just the same light grey on light grey.

Does anyone know where in the Sylpheed settings files what code you would have to insert to change the attachment box's font/background color? The most likely candidate to insert such code would be /home/a/.sylpheed-2.0/sylpheedrc, especially lines
Code:
enable_color=1
quote_level1_color=10399487
quote_level2_color=13011967
quote_level3_color=14580991
uri_color=9043849
signature_color=65417
recycle_quote_colors=1
convert_mb_alnum=0
display_header_pane=1
show_attach_tab=1
show_attached_files_first=1
attach_toolbutton_pos=0
My system info:
Code:
a@a-NC210-NC110:/etc/apt/sources.list.d$ uname -a
Linux a-NC210-NC110 3.13.0-53-generic #89-Ubuntu SMP Wed May 20 10:34:28 UTC 2015 i686 i686 i686 GNU/Linux
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Old 07-07-2015, 03:40 AM   #2
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Hi Andrew...

Ah, we meet again.

I tried to find a setting for this, as I'm sure you have and found nothing. After looking on Google for a bit, the closest thing I was able to find concerning your issue was this thread here, although I'm not sure if it will help.

The only other suggestion I can offer is to contact the developer of the program (at the bottom of the page) here. Describe to him the situation you are experiencing and give him a link to this thread, perhaps he will respond.

EDIT: From what I have read here under "Enable colorization," I don't think the code you mentioned will change what you're wanting to change. I think this only has to do with the message text itself, although you can try it and see. On the main window, click on "Configuration," then "Common preferences." When this window comes up, click on the tab "Display," then "Message" below that. Make sure the box that says "Enable coloration of message" is checked and click the "Edit" tab to the right. A box comes up that says "Set message colors." Here you can adjust the colors to what you want them to be. However, I have no idea what first, second and third level means.

Regards...

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Old 07-08-2015, 05:01 AM   #3
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a common problem when using dark gtk themes.
first of all, lxappearance (aka "Customize Look and Feel") does not offer to change the color of fonts.

the problem lies in how sylpheed is coded and cannot be solved easily.
as a workaround, you can start sylpheed with a custom gtk theme:
http://askubuntu.com/questions/8336/...theme-entirely

please ask if you need more help with that.
 
Old 07-10-2015, 10:28 PM   #4
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a common problem when using dark gtk themes.
first of all, lxappearance (aka "Customize Look and Feel") does not offer to change the color of fonts.

the problem lies in how sylpheed is coded and cannot be solved easily.
as a workaround, you can start sylpheed with a custom gtk theme:
http://askubuntu.com/questions/8336/...theme-entirely

please ask if you need more help with that.
I shut down sylpheed, change appearance to Nodoka midnight, and then according to the above solution tutorial I execute:
Code:
env GTK2_RC_FILES=/usr/share/themes/Nodoka-Midnight/gtk-2.0/gtkrc sylpheed&
Unfortunately it still is the same way, grey on grey. Any other solutions?

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Old 07-11-2015, 12:36 AM   #5
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obviously you should choose a different theme for sylpheed.
so it should be something like:
Code:
env GTK2_RC_FILES=/usr/share/themes/adwaita/gtk-2.0/gtkrc sylpheed &
...or whatever light theme you prefer. adwaita is just an example.
you could also write yourself a customized gtkrc only for sylpheed, and point to that.
 
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choose a different theme for sylpheed. so it should be something like:
Code:
env GTK2_RC_FILES=/usr/share/themes/adwaita/gtk-2.0/gtkrc sylpheed &
...or whatever light theme you prefer.
At first I did try a few light color themes, 3 of which are listed below:

Code:
env GTK2_RC_FILES=/usr/share/themes/Redmond/gtk-2.0/gtkrc sylpheed&

env GTK2_RC_FILES=/usr/share/themes/Aurora/gtk-2.0/gtkrc sylpheed&

env GTK2_RC_FILES=/usr/share/themes/CleanIce/gtk-2.0/gtkrc sylpheed&
After this I suddenly realized that we might have had a misunderstanding. Perhaps what you thought I meant was (as in the tutorial http://askubuntu.com/questions/8336/...theme-entirely) that I wanted to "rebel" against the current system theme. Actually no, I don't want to go against the current "night" theme of the system. I want to go along WITH the current system theme and have everything be of darker colours.

The reason I want to do this is to conserve electricity, both carrying out the two acts of environmentalism and reducing my electricity bills, as well as helping myself fall asleep earlier.

During daylight hours, I have my theme set to a lighter colour theme as you suggested, and I simply never had any such problems with two colours of background and foreground of one widget being the same colour.

However at night it is imperative to have the system set to a "dark colour" theme, only then may the user's eyes remain relaxed. Naturally by simple ergonometrics(industrial psychology) users who are relaxed perform more efficiently than those who are tense.

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Old 07-11-2015, 10:17 PM   #7
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The only other suggestion I can offer is to contact the developer of the program (at the bottom of the page) here. Describe to him the situation you are experiencing and give him a link to this thread, perhaps he will respond.
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Ardvark71, nice to speak to you again.

I guess at this point that's all I can do, I looked at the config files in ~/.sylpheed and simply nowhere to change the attachment box's background color.

Thanks for your help.
 
Old 07-11-2015, 11:14 PM   #8
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Hi Andrew...

You're welcome, I hope he gets back with you. Let us know what you find out.

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Old 07-12-2015, 05:10 AM   #9
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I suddenly realized that we might have had a misunderstanding. Perhaps what you thought I meant was (as in the tutorial http://askubuntu.com/questions/8336/...theme-entirely) that I wanted to "rebel" against the current system theme. Actually no, I don't want to go against the current "night" theme of the system. I want to go along WITH the current system theme and have everything be of darker colours.
i understand this, but there simply might not be a way because some programs have certain colors hardcoded in them, and others are taken from the gtk theme.

if sylpheed is such a program, then contacting the developer(s) is realistic.

it's also possible that the nodoka night theme is poorly made - have you tried other dark themes?

it's also possible to copy the nodoka night gtkrc and make only the adjustments that you need, then point to it as explained earlier. thus preserving a mostly dark theme.
 
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Hi Andrew...

Did the developer of Sylpheed ever get back to you?

Regards...
 
Old 08-17-2015, 01:31 AM   #11
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Hi Andrew...

Did the developer of Sylpheed ever get back to you?

Regards...
No, No response at all.

....
 
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No, No response at all.

....
Hi Andrew...

I just dropped him a line, too. Hopefully, you'll get a response.

Regards...
 
Old 08-19-2015, 11:54 AM   #13
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have you even tried with other dark themes?
like i said before, some gtk themes are made poorly.

have you done proper troubleshooting and made sure that the problem is indeed with sylpheed, before contacting it's developer(s)?

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Old 08-19-2015, 10:10 PM   #14
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have you even tried with other dark themes?
like i said before, some gtk themes are made poorly.

have you done proper troubleshooting and made sure that the problem is indeed with sylpheed, before contacting it's developer(s)?
So far I've used the below themes:
1) CleanIce-Marble
2) Darklooks
3) Nodoka-Midnight
4) dorian-theme-3.12

Current system's gtk info:
Code:
a@NP-NC110:~$ dpkg -l | grep libgtk
ii  libgtk-3-0:i386                             3.10.8-0ubuntu1.4                       i386         GTK+ graphical user interface library
ii  libgtk-3-bin                                3.10.8-0ubuntu1.4                       i386         programs for the GTK+ graphical user interface library
ii  libgtk-3-common                             3.10.8-0ubuntu1.4                       all          common files for the GTK+ graphical user interface library
ii  libgtk-sharp-beans-cil                      2.14.1-3                                all          Supplementary CLI bindings for GTK 2.14+
ii  libgtk2-appindicator-perl                   0.15-1build1                            i386         Perl bindings for libappindicator
ii  libgtk2-imageview-perl                      0.05-1build3                            i386         Perl bindings for the GtkImageView image viewer widget
ii  libgtk2-perl                                2:1.249-2                               i386         Perl interface to the 2.x series of the Gimp Toolkit library
ii  libgtk2-unique-perl                         0.05-1build3                            i386         module for single instance applications
ii  libgtk2.0-0:i386                            2.24.23-0ubuntu1.2                      i386         GTK+ graphical user interface library
ii  libgtk2.0-cil                               2.12.26-0xamarin1                       i386         CLI binding for the GTK+ toolkit 2.12
ii  libgtk2.0-common                            2.24.23-0ubuntu1.2                      all          common files for the GTK+ graphical user interface library
ii  libgtkglext1                                1.2.0-3.1fakesync3                      i386         OpenGL Extension to GTK+ (shared libraries)
ii  libgtkimageview0                            1.6.4+dfsg-0.1ubuntu2                   i386         image viewer widget for GTK+
ii  libgtkmm-2.4-1c2a:i386                      1:2.24.4-1ubuntu1                       i386         C++ wrappers for GTK+ (shared libraries)
ii  libgtksourceview-3.0-1:i386                 3.10.2-0ubuntu1                         i386         shared libraries for the GTK+ syntax highlighting widget
ii  libgtksourceview-3.0-common                 3.10.2-0ubuntu1                         all          common files for the GTK+ syntax highlighting widget
ii  libgtkspell0                                2.0.16-1ubuntu7                         i386         a spell-checking addon for GTK's TextView widget
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Old 08-26-2015, 01:32 AM   #15
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http://sylpheed.sraoss.jp/en/news.html
Quote:
Sylpheed 3.2beta2 has been released.
(...)

Style colors are used for attachment label widgets now.
The text color of quick search on dark themes was fixed
what version of sylpheed are you using?
 
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