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Old 08-19-2004, 12:55 PM   #1
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suse installation


How can I install Suse linux 9.1 pro directly from my hard drive? I booted with the boot.iso, but when I come to type in the path, it says cannot mount the specified drive. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
 
Old 08-19-2004, 01:27 PM   #2
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Does your system boot your cdrom first?

Is the disc being read? Or do you get an error when your system tries to boot from the disc?

Does SuSE load the green boot screen with options? Are you able to select items from this screen?

A little more information would help.
 
Old 08-19-2004, 01:29 PM   #3
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Did you burn this ".iso" yourself?

Did you purchase this .iso?

Or did you simply copy all of the folders from 9.1 Pro SuSE and burn them to a cd?

If you just burned all the folders to a cd, this will not work.
 
Old 08-19-2004, 01:53 PM   #4
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I downloaded all the files from suse ftp site and saved them on my hard drive. I burned the boot.iso myself and my cdrom reads it perfectly and the (blue) boot setup starts. Then i choose manual installation. Now when i choose hard disk and come to write the path of where my files are, here's the error.
 
Old 08-19-2004, 03:54 PM   #5
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any help please??
 
Old 08-19-2004, 04:23 PM   #6
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So you are trying to do an ftp install?
 
Old 08-19-2004, 04:26 PM   #7
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as i have never installed via ftp

here is a newbie guide to doing this:

http://usalug.org/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=2891
 
Old 08-19-2004, 04:34 PM   #8
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Sounds like your cd is not bootable. That's OK. You need to search the CD for a boot floppy image. Use the dd command in linux, or rawrite.exe in windows to produce the boot floppy from the image. Some distros also have a boot.iso image that you can burn to cd. If you have this image, it will contain more drivers and allow you to select your installation method from a menu. I'm not at home now so I can't search my cd to check, plus I don't know if the installation files that you downloaded are identical to what you downloaded.
However, this is how I installed Mandrake 10 previously. Good Luck.
 
Old 08-19-2004, 06:54 PM   #9
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sorry guys but i think u are all misunderstanding what the problem is. my cd is bootable and it boots fine. i choose manual installation and i have all the files downloaded onto my hdd from suse ftp site; 3.8GB. now i dont know exactly how to write the path of my files when setup asks for it. and im not installing via ftp, but from my hdd.

btw mikedeatworld, why if i burned all the files on cd it wouldnt work?

thank u
 
Old 08-19-2004, 08:00 PM   #10
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no that will not work with professional. one cannot simply burn all of those files SuSE puts on the ftp site to a cd.
however, you can burn personal for free, and this will work just fine.

but i believe that site is a great tutorial on how to install via ftp. i think what you would need to do is something like this

do burn the bootable iso SuSE provides: ftp://mirror.mcs.anl.gov/pub/suse/i386/current/boot/ -- find best for you
somewhere around there. look for the file:
boot.iso 23744 KB

then simply insert this disc and bootup using it.

FROM http://usalug.org/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=2891

"Choose Installation --- then hit the enter key.
It will say something like "Can't find cd - entering manual setup")
You should get a {Loading Linux Kernel...............} and then proceed to the next screen.

You should get a screen that lets you choose your language and keyboard map.... mine were both English, the defaults.

Then you should get to a MAIN MENU screen. Several options there. Starting with Settings. System Information. Kernel Modules. Start Installation. Exit/Reboot. Power Off.

Choose Settings first. Make sure your Language selection is correct.
Then choose KERNEL MODULES and then select Load network (ethernet) card modules. Choose your network cards modules and load it. It is important that you know what network card you have as this step needs to be correct in order to continue.

If you need to load other modules do so here before proceeding. IE: if you have more than one network card installed, load that module also. When that's done go back to the main menu and choose START INSTALLATION. Then choose the source medium (NETWORK). Then choose FTP. If you have more than one network card installed, here is where you have to tell the installer which card to use also. Then to enable your card to access the internet you need to choose AUTO CONFIG VIA DHCP or do it manually. I choose auto, since I'm using a router that does DHCP.

Next is the hard part. You have to enter the IP ADDRESS of the FTP server. It took me several trys to figure this out. But after a little research, I found that the IP address can be had via the DIG command on Linux.

You must use the dig command in a terminal to find the IP address of whatever FTP server your using. I was using the ftp://mirror.mcs.anl.gov/pub/suse/ FTP server. Using the dig command : dig mirror.mcs.anl.gov returns one IP address. 140.221.9.138

If you must use windows to get the ip address, try going to some web site, such as http://network-tools.com/ or similar. If you use http://network-tools.com/ select the Express lookup. Simply type in "mirror.mcs.anl.gov" in the blank space just under the first big box of choices on the screen. After pressing "Enter", it will resolve a traceroute to "140.221.9.138", and there you have the address. This method works in any browser in any operating system.

Enter this number into the box asking for the IP address. After hitting enter it asks you if you want to specify a username and password, just say no. Then it asks if you want to use a Http proxy. Say NO again.

If things have went right so far it should say "trying to connect to ftp server". Once connected it says "Please enter the directory on the server"

For the ftp://mirror.mcs.anl.gov/pub/suse/ ftp server the correct entry would be: pub/suse/i386/9.1/

You should then see a small screen that says "Loading data into ramdisk (53300 kB) WOOT..... the hard part of the install, getting connected, is over!!

After that data is downloaded into the RAM disk, you will be greeted with the YaST Installation and System administration program.

The first thing you get to do is choose your language again. Then Yast detects hardware and checks to see if you want to load those drivers/modules. Choosing yes to detected hardware seems like a no brainer to me... so choose yes. The rest of the installation seems fairly straightforward and should be easy. The YaST installer has a very NICE partitioning tool.

At a minimum, you should probably have these partitions.

/boot small 50 mb
swap 500 mb unless you have alot of ram
/root 2+ gigs at least
/home the rest of the hard drive...or dedicate more to other partitions and root.

NOTE: You can let SuSe auto-partition your drive for you. I decided to go that route this time and ended up with a 1 gig swap partition and a 5 gig root partition on my 6 gig test drive. While I'm not sure that's the best setup, it did work fine. Smile

The net install once it begins does take some time, even with fast connections. My 9.1 install took 1 hour and 15 minutes start to finish using the above method. That's the fastest I've ever did a net install, so I doubt that it was an average time. The servers are all running and alot of time are running at full capacity. Your milage may vary of course, and depends on your connection speed, and how busy the mirror is when your doing this. I usually set it up to start downloading the packages right before I go to bed Smile Plan on taking at least several hours to complete this on a fast connection. If I were on dialup, personally, I wouldn't even attempt this type of install. It would be much less painful to just pay for SuSe 9.1 in my local computer store, or order it online.

Once the packages are finally downloaded, you get a nice menu with Yast to choose different programs if you desire something besides the default setup. Working with Yast and configuring you system are beyond the scope of this artical, but I doubt you'll have many problems if you made it this far Smile

Then it's time to finish the install, setting root password, users, graphic card settings, and that's about it. Special note, check your RESOLUTION SETTINGS here carefully, sometimes the installer sets them to high. I usually just change mine back to 1024x768, but you may want different settings. By default the installer usually sets the resolution to it's HIGHEST possible setting for the graphics card/monitor combination, sometimes this results in makeing the monitor run out of sync. Reboot and you get rewarded with a SuSe 9.1 Linux Desktop workstation !! I'm very impressed with the ease of use of the SuSe enviroment. I look forward to using it more and more.

On another side note, if you have several computers that you want to install this to, you can download the entire directory tree and do this install from your own network. (That to is beyond the scope of this article, but isn't to difficult to do.) This would be much quicker than installing via ftp from a remote server every time. I don't see much benefit to downloading the entire tree if your just going to install this on one machine though.

I hope this short tutorial was useful to you. If so, let me know Smile

Things you might want to write down BEFORE you start the install:

1. The ftp mirror URL:

_________________________________________________
2. The boot iso url:

_________________________________________________
3. The IP address of the ftp server your using:

_________________________________________________
4. The directory address on the ftp server:

_________________________________________________
5. The names/model #'s of your network (ethernet) cards:

_________________________________________________
6. If you don't use dhcp for your network you may need

Static Network Address:
Subnet Mask:
Gateway/Router Address:
ISP primary DNS server address:

That seems pretty straight forward to me. If you get stuck anywhere in this process, let me know.
 
  


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