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saurya_s 11-22-2003 12:07 PM

SuSe 9 installation and Win XP -booting, modem
 
Hi guys
I tried to install Suse 9. it went pretty good but when the system boots using grub it only shows booting options using Linux, none for windows. How do I amke it to show window choice as well.
Secondly, it did recognise my winmodem in laptop but the application kinternet which it uses to dialup never connected to internet.
Thirdly,how can I create a link for Windows document folder on my linux desktop.
Xine never worked with DVDs?
has anybody had good expereince with SuSe who could help me troubleshooting this.
Thanks
SS

shassouneh 11-22-2003 12:49 PM

I have been running SuSE ever since 7.3 (7.3,8.0,8.1,8.2,9.0) and I love it.

1.) Boot Loader

As for the booting options, try this
Boot Linux. Then go

SuSE Menu -> System -> YaST

This will launch YaST and ask for your root password. After you enter your root password, it will launch a coll GUI that helps you configure a lot of things.

Go To System (i think) and at the top left corner of the right pane there should be a "boot loader" icon. If you click on it, it will launch a utility in which u cna edit your boot loader configuration files. You can even switch your boot loader to lilo.

2.) Link (Symbolic Link)
As for creating the link, its pretty easy. But first, you will need to make sure your windows partition is mounted. By Default, SuSE mounts your C drive into
/windows/C

3.) Dialer
I have never used KInternet myself. However, I have had good success with wvdial. It is a console-based dialer and it works good. Using YaST you cna choose to install it (if it hasn't been already installed). To see if wvdial is installed, open up a terminal/console window and type in the following

whereis wvdial

if all you get is
wvdial:

Then it is not installe.d

but if u get something like

wvdial: /usr/bin/wvdial

Then its installed!

4.) Xine / DVD

I have never had good success with Xine. As a matter of fact, I usually use MPlayer. Be forewarned though, MPlayer seems to be a pain in the behind to get to work on SuSE. Chances are you might need to compile it (and all its dependencies and libraries and codecs) from source!!! Source seems to be the way to go when installing MPlayer on SuSE.

MPlayer has a nice GUI interface called GMplayer.


I hope this reply helps. Let me know if I can be of any more help :D :)


and your "my documents" folder should be under Document And Settings/YourUserName/My Documents

so to make the link, lets sya you want /home/YourUserName/docs to point to your My Documents folder,
the command would then be

ln -s /home/YourUserName/docs "/windows/C/Documents And Settings/YourUserName/My Documents"

Note that I used quotation marks " " because there are spaces inm the path you ar elinking to.

saurya_s 11-23-2003 11:53 AM

Hiya
Are you running suse and win. Can you paste your grub config or menu.lst file - i mean the one which has to be edited in order to display window booting option.
Thanks
SS

shassouneh 11-23-2003 11:57 AM

Sure. I will do so as Soon As I boot into Linux. (I am running Windows 2000 right now).

Did any of my tips above prove useful? (just curious)

saurya_s 11-23-2003 12:23 PM

I am on Mandrake at the moment but will retry Suse soon, once I get what all I need from you.You seems to be staunch Suse fan!!Indeed your tips are helpful!!
I am still struggling with my modem. It is called HAMR56. Found a linux driver for this and see how it goes.Have you got any idea of doing this?
Thanks

saurya_s 11-26-2003 12:23 PM

Could you get a chance to paste your congig file for booting.?
Thanks
SS

shassouneh 11-28-2003 03:20 AM

Yes, I will post my config file sometime tommorow. Sorry for the late replies, but I am out of town right now (in Portland, OR). About 350 miles from home. I will post my config file as soon as i get to home :D :)

Underworld 11-28-2003 11:39 AM

if i were to put the two operating systems into a object, it would be....


Windows is the exspensive whore
Linux is the free whore


we all know which quality is better...

shassouneh 11-28-2003 09:46 PM

config files
 
OK, here are the contents of /etc/grub.conf
Code:

root (hd0,2)
install --stage2=/boot/grub/stage2 /boot/grub/stage1 d (hd0) /boot/grub/stage2 0x8000 (hd0,2)/boot/grub/menu.lst
quit

And here are the contents of /boot/grub/menu.lst
Code:


# Modified by YaST2. Last modification on Thu Nov 20 23:58:47 2003


color white/blue black/light-gray
default 0
timeout 8
gfxmenu (hd0,2)/boot/message

###Don't change this comment - YaST2 identifier: Original name: linux###
title Linux
    kernel (hd0,2)/boot/vmlinuz root=/dev/hde3 vga=0x317 splash=silent desktop hdh=ide-scsi hdhlun=0 showopts
    initrd (hd0,2)/boot/initrd

###Don't change this comment - YaST2 identifier: Original name: windows###
title Windows
    root (hd0,0)
    chainloader +1

###Don't change this comment - YaST2 identifier: Original name: floppy###
title Floppy
    root (fd0)
    chainloader +1

###Don't change this comment - YaST2 identifier: Original name: failsafe###
title Failsafe
    kernel (hd0,2)/boot/vmlinuz root=/dev/hde3 showopts ide=nodma apm=off acpi=off vga=normal nosmp noapic maxcpus=0 3
    initrd (hd0,2)/boot/initrd

I hope that helps. Let me know If I can be of any more help :D :)

agallant 11-28-2003 10:06 PM

Suse, Redhat & windows
 
Some advice:

I went out and spent $80 on a copy of Suse 9 and i hated it. Not because it worked poorly but because it worked poorly on a laptop. Example. When you plug in a USB mouse or something like that i would have to set it up in Yatts (I think that is the name of it). Little things like that get anoying quick. Try redhat it works much better on laptops. As for windows. It is very hard getting away from it. My advice would be just to "jump in to the fire" get rid of windows and just tell your self that you are only going to use Linux. It is hard for the first few weeks but after that it is easy. I own a small consulting company and all of my customers use some Microsoft ap. It was diffuclt at first but a few months later i am over it and i have learned how to get Redhat 9 to work on my customers networks. Be brave and just go for it, you will be much more happy.

-AG

shassouneh 11-28-2003 10:17 PM

Re: Suse, Redhat & windows
 
Quote:

Originally posted by agallant
Some advice:

I went out and spent $80 on a copy of Suse 9 and i hated it. Not because it worked poorly but because it worked poorly on a laptop. Example. When you plug in a USB mouse or something like that i would have to set it up in Yatts (I think that is the name of it). Little things like that get anoying quick. Try redhat it works much better on laptops. As for windows. It is very hard getting away from it. My advice would be just to "jump in to the fire" get rid of windows and just tell your self that you are only going to use Linux. It is hard for the first few weeks but after that it is easy. I own a small consulting company and all of my customers use some Microsoft ap. It was diffuclt at first but a few months later i am over it and i have learned how to get Redhat 9 to work on my customers networks. Be brave and just go for it, you will be much more happy.

-AG

its YAST (yet Another Setup Tool)

As for SuSE being a pain, in my humble experience and opinion, I have found REDHAT to be rocket science when compared with SuSE. SuSE was made with one reasoning in mind: Make Linux relatively easy to use.

I don't beleive in having to be a rocket scientist to use Linux. If a company is smart enough to make Linux usable with ease, then why not?

yes I am a computer geek, but I would like to get some use out of my system rather than putting loits of time and effort GETTING a system to work.

You may choose to run Redhat if u want, but I sitll highly recommend SuSE.

Also, as for setting up hardware with YaST, welcome to the world of linux. The windows-style "inbstall new hardware" whenever u plug something in is practically non existent in Linux.

Sorry for the harsh tone, I just could not resist

agallant 11-28-2003 10:42 PM

Don't get me wrong. Suse is great. I was dissapointed in red hat for not comming with a media player, MP3 player things like that. to me that just says that they are trying to cover there ass. I think suse is much more intresting than Redhat. In fact i think that Redhat is a little boring and i have been eyeing that Suse box on my desk thinking one more try. But as for Suse on a lap top it was not as easy as Redhat. My wireless, USB mouse, digital camera, and power managment did not work as well as on redhat. Also maybe i just installed too many packages but it loaded very slow compaired to redhat.

as for the "windows-style "inbstall new hardware" whenever u plug something in" comment you are correct. But as i said i own a company and i don't want to f*&k around with stuff in front of customers. I just want it to work.

shassouneh 11-28-2003 11:11 PM

Ah I c. I guess I misunderstood. Sorry for the harsh tone.
As for SuSE on a laptop, I am running SuSe on an old laptop. Laptops and Linux in general are not as smooth as desktops and linux. I have tried redhat, mandrake, Arrabix, Knoppix, and SuSe on my laptop, and by far SuSE was the easiest to configure and get working.
Maybe I am just a drug addict, and m y drug is SuSe. LOL : D:)

agallant 11-28-2003 11:27 PM

saurya_s,

Ok, you seam to be a Suse guro. I know that i should not be taking over this guys thres, i apoligise for it but let me ask you a question. I really liked Suse but i could not get my d-link wireless card to work in it. And ideas. All i know is that in Redhat it just worked after setting up the netwotrk configuration.

-AG

saurya_s 11-29-2003 06:40 AM

Hi there
I have not tried rather retried Suse again but will do sometime soon. At the moment I am sticking to Mandrake as one can see it is most popular after the demise of RedHat. Look at distrowatch. urpmi thing is pretty cool about it.
SuSe doesn' t have support for DVD etc but these things are corrigible.
With Mandrake my camera works perfectly, so does the USB drives.Fancy things like Bluetooth mouse to laptops even PS2 doesn't work by default but can be configured.
So that makes clear why I have not tried wireless and bluettoth things.
One thing which I liked about Suse that it recognised my built in windmodem of my laptop but I could never connect it to internet by dial up.
Mandrake doesn't even recognise the winmodem even if one invokes the winmodem command.
As I primarily, use my linux laptop at work these things are not problem.
Windows does the job at home and I can't get rid of it as my partner doesn't know linux.
Howver, once I am able to configure the mdem it should be ready for home as well.
Cheers
SS


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